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He would like almost 24k for that one. Beautiful watch, but a little out of my reach

That's rediculously cool M!

WHOOOoohhhh!!!! . . !

I just checked my Josh 5513 and I was wrong. It does indeed say polex. Serial number might help here. My serial is L341175.

I'm going to guess Josh got some of these PT watches and shipped them in place of the first ones if you got your watch from him. Josh may not be aware of it even. Congrats on your wedding!

Auto knows his stuff and his ideas to make this watch work is the answer, if this is to be a keeper. From reading Azgjav's post, you have the new copy of a MBW and not the infamous Josh 5513 that everybody bought awhile back. Notice in Azgjav's post all the surprise about the polex and better crown guards. Your case looks to have better ones too. He had no problems with his gen T19 fitting..as none of us had with the Josh watch. So I have no idea what the problem is with yours. When you get the gen spec Clark T19 you will find out if the whole problem is your gen crystal or not. It looks like your option is to find out if it's a gen crystal problem and decide if you want to either solve it the ways Auto suggests..or use a different case set. I think I have a new Josh 5513 disassembled at Jmb's shop that I'm not using. I might part with it maybe. Sorry I can't be of more help at this point..very few people have the new Polex/MBW copy cartel thing and we don't know much about it.

Let me verify you have the incorrect case first before you do anything. I agree, you don't want to mess up $ parts. Lots of guys put gen 1520/1570's in MBW cases, not familar with anyone doing it in a Josh though. In sure it probably can be done. I'll check my cases later today and let you know about the polex or not. I think you have a Pt case verses the Josh 5513 though, otherwise your parts should be fitting. I'll let you know as soon as I can. If you have the wrong case I can probably help you.

I'm gonna also add... It's a shame since you e got the gen parts going that stuff's not fitting. That was the really cool thing about the Josh 5513.. gen parts fit and it was only 99$, other than the shorter crown guards..it's a great deal. They did go up in price to 118$ but still a bargain.

It says "polex" eh? The original mbw's say "polex" and rumor has it there are copies of the old MBW's out there now that say polex also. I'm pretty sure our Josh 5513's don't say polex, but I'm already at work and wearing my 6541 today. Otherwise I'd pull the bracelet and check my other watches. I have three Josh 5513's, and all of them have turned into Tudors. When I get home tonight I will see what markings they have. It's real recent the MBW copies came out and I wonder if that's what you have? This all would make sense as to the thin gasket you have and the gen T19 not fitting. If someone else here with one of the the Josh 5513's we all bought last year could check their markings for polex or not that would be good, otherwise do it tonight for you. If this all works out to be the situation, I'd reccomend a different case and I may be able to help you.

Miles, did you buy your 5513 from Josh?

That's what I think, something seems strange. His T19 seems really loose. I pulled my black Tudor apart the other day and my T19 is tight. J, did any of my josh's have that thin gasket deal? ETA: that's a great idea if you have a Clark's to try and compare against your gen crystal. Also, I'm not saying yours isn't gen. All of my service T19's have come in these flat packages.

Ok. First I'd reccomend you Pm member Jmb. I don't know what that gasket is about or if any of mine came with those. Jmb disassemble mine from the get go. I have taken mine apart since then and reassembled. MBW' are the same. But the Gen T19 should fit similar or tighter than the rep crystal. In fact it might need to be lightly sanded to fit. Obviously yours is very loose and that's wrong. Where did you get your T19? Positive it's gen? The retaining ring is installed with a press and sometimes the bezels need to use a press also. Something is up with the gen T19 maybe? Those are my thoughts, hopefully Jmb will be along to explain all this.

Really? I have several Josh 5513's, as far as I know they all have the same construction as Rolex. Crystal, retaining ring, flat tension washer and the bezel. No gaskets. I think Jmb machines a custom tension ring for those with loose bezels?

They are on the regular Rolex forum all the time new in the box from 950-1150$

E... Your MC's coming along! Hev is from Phong...he sent it in the Rolex packet...but assume rep.

There is a second option. There are older MBW models of this watch, a pretty good rep. Not as accurate as the Wm9, but not bad at all. There were two for sale last week at RG. I like the build option also. It is not all that likely a Wm9 version will come up for sale anytime soon.

soon to be added...

This is what the Ofrei Rolex spec says theirs are: " Spring Bars single shoulder, shoulder to shoulder is 19.63 mm, pivots 2.8 mm long, bar diameter is 2.0 mm, pivot diameter is 1.2 mm."

I have no idea either, I have some gen, some from Ofrei, WSO, CharlieUK at RG, Jmb, and an Aussie eBay seller. If I layed them all out in front of me....they all vary by a mm or so in length. I have no idea anymore what are gens

Most people are just not watch people. The ones that actually wear watches use them to tell the time...if you can believe that! lol

Very nice MC! I hope to join that fine club one day

The gen style 2mm bars are real simple, a tube and straight ends. They can be found at a few sellers on eBay and also are sold at Ofrei. I'm pretty sure the TC bracelet will need to be slightly drilled to open up to fit them. Jmb has drilled two of my sel bracelets to fit gen springbars. You've gone this far...it's a worthwhile mod for a killer frankin http://www.ofrei.com/page_155.html

This is wonderful and accurate advice. The vintage Daytona may be my favorite watch, and even though I know more than I did three years ago about them..I still have not started a build. The Franken world is so easy to lose money on parts if you don't know what you are doing. Several members her have the most amazing Daytonas that you will see anywhere. I will build one someday though. Good luck and keep us posted.

Really cool! Are you going to get gen or gen style bars and drill out the TC bracelet..since you have the lughole case?