Tom

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There seem to be three small holes on the dial rather than a screw. Does it require a special tool? Can anyone help me take the rotor off my 2892? Thanks in advance.

My gut feeling says he's not to blame either, but the fact is I paid for an ETA not an asian clone. If something looks too good to be true.........why don't I listen and learn? I'll let you know what his response is, but I am sure he'll be fine.

Thank you all for such a quick and comprehensive response. I guess that clears that one up. I have sent an email to Jay at Silix explaining the situation and we'll see what he says. It was sold on his website as a genuine ETA 2892 and I asked him three time if he could guarantee it was genuine....three times he said yes it was the genuine article. I hope he was just as unknowing as me in this. We shall see. Thanks again to all that helped.

I've just bought this Franck Muller Conquistador from a well respected dealer. He assured me that this was the rare version with the 2892-2 ETA mechanism. It even has the ETA stamp as you can see from the images below. A respected forum member emailed me to tell me it's a Seagull ST18 and not an ETA. Please can you have a look and let me know your thoughts? As this is such a famous and well loved mechanism I am hoping someone will be able to tell me before I send the heavies around to the dealer - he told me it was a genuine mechanism and I believed him because of the ETA stamps. Let me know what you think...

There's a couple of links on Spankwire I could send you

Yes, but they are not great quality. You can pick one up for about $100 on iOffer. I would recommend doing this as they are very good for the money. Go for any dealer with good feedback. If it's a chrono you're after use Ufanta -he's a good guy. Nobody knows why our dealers haven't sorted out the factorys and got a decent version of these. Maybe they will, but i'm not so sure.

I know i'm being pedantic but I can't help myself . If you look at the Bell & Ross website the '&' is not centred just below the 2 of 12, it is slightly to the right. While I agree that the rep is not exact the difference is less than half a millimetre from the gen. I'm not sure it screams rep - unless your job is putting them together at the B&R factory.

Does anyone know if you can buy the Sea-gul mechanisms seperately?

Isn't this the new Graham - it certainly looks like one

I think you made the right decision - now go and spend the money on a watch that will really make you smile...

You tease. Get your camera out!!!

They didn't do very well in Iran 1980 or Somalia 1993.

I've been thinking about this this week and it could be done with a grey felt tip from an art shop. My local one does packs of 5 with varying shades of grey from light to almost black. I think that would do it.

I would REALLY like to see a wrist shot of this watch. Please someone post one!!!

How embarrassing - I thought I was!! Better action that right away. thanks

Am I going mad of has it gone? I've looked three times now and I can't see it!!

That is a very good point and one I hadn't thought of!! Does Chanel make an automatic chrono? in which case do they make a quartz chrono? If they don't I wonder why people buy the very expensive swiss quartz versions?

Sorry - here it is. Check out the misaligned bezel and left hand subdial hand. Not much but enough to annoy. But the main thing is the writing. It just doesn't make sense!!

Just received an all ceramic chanel J12 chrono with jap quartz from a respected dealer. There are a couple of things wrong with it which I can definitely live with - firstly the bezel is just slightly misaligned. Apparently this cannot really be adjusted and I don't want to send it back because of that. The thing that I have noticed is that on the front the dial is wrong. The dial should say CHANEL J12 Automatic Above the hands and then OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED CHRONOMETER around the subdial at '6' Mine doesn't say Automatic (I can live with this) then it says CHRONOGRAPHTIME at 6!!! Has anyone else got one like this. What do you think? It's a horrible mistake, but maybe a lot of them are like that. Will people really notice? What do you think?

Found the guy on Timezone - just what I wanted. Thanks for all the help.

Tried Waccex/Bob but they don't do the correct size. I'm looking for a really nice dark brown croco which is a size 22/20 for a deployant buckle. Does anyone have any good ideas? Thanks Tom.

Angus sells rep canvas straps as well. They won't be half as good as Carl's at Gasgasbones, but they come with the rep buckle. I'd go for orange over blue. Black and blue doesn't work in my opinion. Orange and black is a classic combination.

The PAM217 was a 2005 limited edition and only came with a sapphire caseback, there were no variations.