repexplorer I do not know what your goal/game is but jerking w/ the guys over at Gen forums with a Rep is not done, period.
(the internet world is smaller than you think when it comes to watches, on the ball Arctos )
jay as far as closing thread the guys are answering you, the knowledge you seek is all here. This being said we read, research and basically become active members to learn these things. Take your time read around you will learn these things also, then you can buy what you are comfortable with. This site is not a service for guys to buy their first Rep we do help each other but to a point gotta do your own homework.
Where ever you are getting info I would go with what you were just told here period forget they, there are other Rep sites but we are the Tech site (movements etc) and there is no dispute on that. Now a few things, NO they are not rare they are made in China so they are like M&M's. Next some times you get a good one sometimes you get a bad one QC is crap in China. Yes wear all you want if it works well fine if not what good is the watch anyway right.
"If someone wants a 100% guarantee; they should get a gen. Or at least buy from someone like BK who installs his own Gen mov'ts." true, just put "Swiss stated" who really knows these are reps, if they want to buy fine if not..................
Tough call the Swiss movement is an old one thy put in 99% of the time the a2836 well could be great could be crap their QC sucks. I go Asian but that is just me.
You know guys I would deal with Toro or Mirrors off of Pay Pal because I know who I am talking to, but with the big houses it is strictly PP or I do not buy.
PS still it is a CC if it is not Josh just report they close that number you are not liable, now overall identity theft is another matter I do not know how much you gave them.
Everything but the ex-wife's I got my own headache do not need anybody else s! LOL (you know I post this often guess who his hitting me, OH crap another watch came in today, ouch!)