Cromag I have read entire threads with dealers answering question on specific aspects /features of new models not just one word answers the next day. Conversations back and forth you get it. Now I do not see this here but at least these guys around a lot posting product interacting as Toro just did in our lost PP thread. Let's see to name some others Mary and Rochest do interact and the new guys Kurvasit but elsewhere not here. As for us Angus 2 years, kingwatch 4 years, Silix 1 year, I could go on. I realize these guys busy running a biz but this is just new product offerings hey post a watch you have for sale! On the other hand sead and Toro are active here, that was my point.