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@sarge and bam...I agree! I would have loved the ceramic in pumpkin. I really don't want metal because of the scratch potential but I have quite a bit of black in my collection...tough decision maybe I'll go black insert with orange numbers...best of both worlds???thoughts gents???

Relax sput I had the same issue. I wouldn't use pliers anywhere on my watch....might leave a nasty scratch All you have to do is screw the stem out as far as possible. Then place the valve cap on and lightly screw it back onto the stem...its tedious but be patient it will work. If necessary to prevent stem from turning hold it with tweezers. Good luck!

Btw fellas I just spoke with Andrew at trusty and he assured me the bezel is gen ceramic and if it isn't 100% refund. I believe him he's a stand up guy.

Don't blame you mate, my fingers are a little too big and stupid to be pulling watches apart

Lol me too!

 

Firstly, I would like to say that there is no such thing as a fake watch that runs. If the watch has a movement that works and it tells the time then it is not a 'fake watch' it is a real, actual watch. That's just to the fools who look down on our wonderful hobby.

 

Now, I'd like to address the issue of honesty amongst the gen communiuty. For starters, as far as I can tell the VRF marketplace is infested with franken builders. Great, good luck to them but please don't start looking down your nose at the rep world! They are as guilty of replication as we are. I bet your average VRF franken builder wearing his perfectly formed (from various gen parts) Sub regards his watch as a genuine Rolex product, well I've got news for you - it's not. Only a watch that came out of the Rolex factory and has only ever been worked on by Rolex is a gen. If you have assembled a watch from various parts from various sources then you have made a frankenstein, which is only one step away from a rep. And, whilst we are on the subject what does a gen owner do if his watch breaks and the part required to make it work again is no longer available, at all, anywhere? Then he finds a company or individual who is manufacturing that part in the same material and to the same exacting standards as the original company did. Does he put the watch in his sock drawer and never wear it? No, of course not. He is perfectly within his rights to buy the (rep) part and enjoy his watch again, regardless of what others think. It's still a lovely watch, now it's a lovely watch that works. Good.

 

I own reps and gens. I prefer reps. I like the research and gathering of parts. I like the fact that financially, building reps opens up the availability of the pieces I really like to suit my budget. I like the fact that I can buy parts piece by piece thus spreading the cost rather than having to blow thousands in one hit. I like the fact that a decent rep is like sticking two finger up the the gen companies because I strongly suspect that their 'swiss made' pieces are far from 100% Swiss. 

 

 

 

“It is not generally known that quite a few Swiss companies have watches assembled in China for export to North America, Asia and even Europe, where the brand name is more important that the “Swiss made” label. Such watches may consist of a Chinese case and a Chinese crystal, a Taiwan-made dial and metal bracelet and Japanese hands. If the movement is to be considered Swiss, 51% of its value must be Swiss and at least the last wheel must be added in Switzerland. Swiss watch brands without the “Swiss made” label are usually equipped with a Japanese movement. The “Swiss parts” label means that the movement is assembled in Asia using kits consisting at least partially of Swiss made components.”

The Swiss law is quite complicated when it comes to what is swiss made and what is not - some say this is by design but it seems that if 50% of the value (note - value, not quantity) of the parts are made in switzerland and the movement is encased in Switzerland then you can legally call it a swiss made watch. So, if Rolex had parts for their movements made in China but 50% of the value of the total parts (ie a few expensive bits) were made in Switzerland and the movement was encased in Switzerland then you have got yourself a genuine Swiss Rolex. I'm sorry but that's not good enough for me. I'd rather be honest about a watch and say to whoever it may concern that I am a hobbyist who amasses parts and has his favourite watches built by skilled people and yes, they are real watches and yes they are waterproof and yes they keep excellent time and yes they will withstand the same amount of wear and abuse as one that came out of Rolex's swiss/chinese factories and yes they can cost thousands to make etc etc. Rant over...

 

while i was out yesterday i popped into an AD, handled the pumpkin 45...and pretty much as i got home ordered the 45 pumpkin rep! to say it pops is an understatement! its a killer look, i'll probs matt coat the bezel insert when it arrives as the gen does have quite a matt look to it-it is steel too, i asked lol the orange numbers almost look electric on the dial, different and stunning...go orange! i have the older 22mm black PO rubber strap im gonna try it on too...pics in a week or 2 when i get it...

Sweet! Thanks for info Bam. Can't wait to see pics. I'm thinking of letting PB do my matte finish on the bezel. DMS did his own but scratch the bezel in the process. I don't need that stress

Good on ya mate   that's the one I'll be ordering soon albeit the 42mm, let us know if you can how easy/hard mod is to do, well worth doing imo 

I'm gonna let PB do my matte bezel mod.

I don't know about the newest ceramic bezeled PO's. The watch has a transparent caseback and the movement is beyond wrong.

I don't think its that bad and who sees the back anyway???The average joe wouldn't have a clue. I appreciate the effort by the rep factories. Its nice to have an Omega with a glass back for a change. The seahorse was getting dated.

I stand corrected that looks pretty much ceramic to me mate    I thought I'd seen one of the orange insert pieces stripped and it looked aluminium, must be going mad  

You're correct sarge the thread by DMS shows his new ceramic pumpkin bezel stripped down for a matte spray. It is aluminium per the gen. Omega does not make a orange ceramic bezel insert that I know of.

I agree Mickey! Witch buy gen boxes for your best reps don't waste money on cheap rep boxes.

Got mine yesterday from TT & i agree its is awesome

Nice cougar thanks!

Bam yes you need one!!!!

@bam and sarge yes I'm going for V2 but can't decide on pumpkin or black. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Andrew at TT recommended the pumpkin cause it pops more. I have so much black in my collection pumpkin would be a refreshing addition but alas I'm torn. Help!

Talk go for it! It's an awesome watch especially for a first rep! Never go quartz in a rep unless the gen is quartz. Automatic is always best if its a quality movement. I always go for true Swiss eta if option is available. Welcome to the addiction! Enjoy to the max!

Jk it is bare only the numbers are painted and the gen will wear as well with constant rubbing. Relax guys and enjoy to the max.

Check my review on the CrPO and look at my pearl pics. Perfection is possible in some aspects of a rep. My pearl is perfect in every way. I wouldn't settle for less that's why they send you QC pics. You are not obligated to accept a watch that does not meet your expectations. And sorry David but yes the pearl is NOT level.

Sgt as you know I previously owned the CrPO black bezel and just sold it yaaay I never had any issue with scratches or paint rubbing off. The watch is awesome...no worries mate.

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What's the Liquid Metal flaw?

Not really a flaw per se just says liquid metal on the case back but only the blue model should have this. I have one and I think it looks pretty cool. The average joe on the street wouldn't know the difference.

Now Gents which color do we choose  hmmmm Classic Blue, Black, Black w/pumpkin numbers or Eccentric Pumpkin....decisions decisions

Very nice!  Does anyone know if the gen SA also have blue AR coating?  I have a SA as well and been wanting to see if i should remove the AR coating.

I'm not sure either why you would want to remove the AR???  It makes the dial POP much more and guys pay big bucks to have AR jobs done but if you insist  on removing the AR a Cape Cod polishing cloth and some elbow action will do the job!

I wouldn't except it. You can get one with a better pearl.

the qc pics above are of a 45mm...the date window, bracelet endlink number etc are all for the 45...so it would seem that not only have they sorted the AR issue but also the caseback...hopefully the OP will post pics when he gets it, cos that is probably the best one ive seen posted so far...

Yes Bam you are correct! Just spoke with Andrew at Trusty and BOTH issues have been rectified! I should have waited. Now on to the quick sale I hope.

What's up with the bezel fade issue...is it a real problem? The watch is worthless and unwearable if it's bezel numbers fade away!

Haven't heard about this Perry. Tell us more!

Still haven't received my watch back yet