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It should have a gasket and all you need is a simple crystal press. You can just press it home with everything still assembled and case back in place. I had a few Rolexs with wonky crystals which were quickly fixed. Should be a 10 second fix

jeez man - you are the franken king! congrats on all of the success you've had so far! All great watches

So the gen uses a modded version of the 2892-A2 - which is similar to the 50th Anniv Navi, with secs @ 3. Both (gen) watches have the offset crown and pushers. Unlike the gen 7750 & 7753, with are inline. The close subdial arrgt of the a7750 (PO Chrono v2) would've made the Cosmo rep excessively thick, not to mention exacerbate the sunken DW, so that's out. The Seagull "Lemania" can be factory fitted with an auxiliary hour wheel, can it not? which operates the subdial @6 (re: MoonWatch rep) and many owners 'freeze' this hand. However, the subdial spacing is still wrong. As bad as it sounds, they would be more successful if they used a modified Miyota OS20 with modded hour wheel, and re-print the running secs to 6 o'clock. The subdials are close and the DW is flush. The font being wrong, but still an improvement over the current one which looks like Arial Narrow bold. Oh, and they'd also have to freeze the hand @3, as that reads in 24hrs! lol I think i just killed my own theory!! A long time ago, I did buy a cheap Cosmo rep to try. It did have a 24hr operation, but the subdial registers were calendar functions, and the chrono hand was running seconds. Looks like they'll never rep this one correctly.

Just surfing about before, and I came across this http://www.silix-prime.com/bres073-p-2514.html I never knew they'd repped the Cosmo to use a 7750! I'm not a Cosmo fan, and there's a number of glaring flaws.....but I just wondered if anyone had bothered to try one? If so, does it have the correct 24hr hour wheel?

Find a friend in another EU country (which doesnt ban China) and ask them to forward it on

Since its a whole new watch, I wouldn't be surprised if it was similar to the Chronomat B01 in price. So that would be approx $6750? It'll probably retain the 22mm strap too. The problem that i see is that it'll become a less attainable watch for most people. At the end of the day, its a Navitimer, and I'm not sure if I would be happy to pay that much for it compared to what else is available at that price...

Notice how the date wheel appears to be sunken? - due to the 2-layer dial! I wonder if the gen owners will be complaining about the sunken date! :lol

Over on Breitlingsource.... It's thankfully remained largely unchanged and traditional to the classic Navi layout and colour scheme: 43mm case display back BO1 date font Applied Wings logo on dial Red chrono seconds hand LE number on case side Looks good, and i would love to own one. But in reality, I wonder if the rep makers will use this as their basis for a new rep? (without the display back, non LE)

Great comparison! thanks. I notice that the gen bracelets' SELs are much tighter to the case than the rep. In fact, the whole gen SEL looks like it is made to a tighter tolerance.

So.... are we actually going to see a revised Navi rep in the future then? There is actually a plan to make it? Or are we speculating?

Now now. Let's not get carried away! But seriously, the caseback etc should not be difficult to fix. They managed to get the Skyland, Super Avenger, Steelfish....all to a very good standard. Leaving the iconic Navi in it's current half-finished format would be so disappointing: given the "new" movement. All the Makers need is a genuine piece to do their stripdown and reverse engineering. Not forgetting tooling-up etc. Relatively small outlay for large returns, over a long period. Be interesting to know how many Navi reps have been sold since the 1st gen 7750s came out. (with matte dials and correct slide rule). I also noticed that the silvery-white paint used on the slide rule was better on the 1st gen, than on the "2nd gen" with hi-beat 7750, which was too dull and creamy.....

Jeez Andreww! You must have some serious powers of persuasion! Or a gold pocketwatch swinging from side-to-side... Whatever the mystery with the a7753 - I hope that whatever comes of it, we will accept it for what it is - a rep movt in a rep watch. Just to reliably correct the sunken dw and font style is enough for me. I've given up with making rep frankens, its too expensive a hobby in these hard times.

It would be good if someone with a 7753 could actually try that trick. My friend has an Oris with a 7753, which also has the hidden date pusher. If I can contact him, I'll ask him to try that trick. Either way, the a7753 does seems strange with the smaller diameter DW. Surely it would interfere with the hand post at 3, if indeed the hand post was in the correct position.

When I had a gen Navitimer with cal.23 (7753) - it never had a quickset date. So the only way to change the date was to keep advancing the hours. I don't think that you could rock the hour hand between midnight to quickset the date either. I'm quite certain that i already tried that. The other gripe was that, if the actual date was 25th for example, and the watch was showing 23rd, you could not rewind the hours to go backwards in date - i had to keep turning the crown forwards for up to 5 mins to arrive at the correct date. As you can imagine, this pi$$ed me off no end, so i sold it. **** Extract from TZ: Q: Navitimer D23322 Hello everybody, I have a Breitling Navitimer D23322 made on the 27th week of 2003, it has a Breitling Caliber 23 (ETA 7753) movement, I have a question, I can pull out the crown to two different positions being three in all but in the middle one there is no action, the quick date set feature does not work, I took the watch to the watchmaker and he tells me there is a working quick set mechanism in the movement but no "hole" in the case for it, he inspected the watch and movement and told me it is authentic for sure, is this normal or the movement is not the correct one for this case? Any ideas? Thank you in advance. A: The correct reason for your crown issue is.... that Breitling had to delete the quickset date function which is standard on the predecessor caliber 13. Moving the subdials from 6, 9 and 12 o'clock to the "tri-compax" position (3,6,9 o'clock) for your caliber 23 Navitimer meant losing real estate (space) in the movement for the quickset complication. The mechanical crown steps remain but the first position is simply not functional. Many enthusiasts prefer the "tri-compax" subdial positions because they are reminiscent of the original 806 Navitimers and are more "classic" in their view. Other owners (myself included) prefer the 6, 9, 12 positions for the Valjoux 7750 movement because the subdial positions seem to "balance" the crown and pushers better as well as having the added bonus of the quickset date complication. Hope this helps... Best, Ron

If you're thinking that you can transplant an a7753 into an existing a7750(tricompax)REP, you will still need a new dial due to the slightly different date window. Or are you thinking of a genuine dial with the a7753?? I doubt that anyone will be selling these a7753's singularly unless they make a dodgy batch. In which case they'll end up on eBay or iOffer via some fly-by-night dealer

I just noticed the date setting lever (on the movement pic)

plus one word: Datefont

You forgot to mention the little dimples on the strap lugs - which the gen 250 has, and this new rep also has! I would have already ordered one if it wasn't for my heavily modded 250

I'm very excited about the movt (if it is indeed an exact copy of the 7753), because now this applies to all of the current 3,6,9 reps! Imagine that!

Is it my imagination, or is this dude wearing a Sub?

Hi Well i never knew that there were 4 versions out! I used to have a "v3" which i though was a v1, and this current one I thought was a v2 lol. Yes the numbers are superskinny, though when i relumed the dial, i tried to correct this, but it turned out to be very difficult to make fatter without losing the sharp straight edges. The chrono needle was painted by Francisco... I will do the hotglue CG mod soon, and reshape the lever slightly

Excellent comparison P. There's quite a few things that i learned right there! Hope you don't mind me posting a few quick and dirty shots of my 253 for further information. Just to keep the 253 comparison thread in one.

I also voted Navi. My decision was for genuine though, not rep. It's the least altered Breitling and, for me, the quintissential Ling. Let's hope they leave it alone and don't give it that goddamn awful Chronospace bezel!

As cool, sleek and expensive as the watch looks, I think the dial would be too shiny for normal use in normal conditions? I can't stand having a shiny dial, and it defeats the object of having AR!