TeeJay

I have to admit, I don't think I've seen any UNs on CQout, it could be that the dealers don't have the connections to the factories to get the really good stuff, or, it could mean that those dealers only stock the most commonly popular watches to make money via repeat sales, where the dealers here are actually catering to actual watch enthusiasts... Movements are a tricky issue... Personally, I find a21js acceptable, but spending that extra money does ensure a smoother sweep, so it comes down to what a person requires in the watch itself... A budget rep wouldn't pass as gen to a knowledgeable WIS, but to the untrained eye, might never raise suspicion as long as the wearer can pull off wearing the watch (which again needs the observer to recognize what they're looking at) As you say, perception is the key

Absolutely, but not so much a case of the price at purchase, just pointing out that what is available on dealer sites on the lower price brackets, are often available even cheaper 'off the beaten path', so price alone isn't always an indicator of the quality of the watch [edit to add] And to work that backwards, just because a watch costs more, doesn't always mean it is going to be better quality...

Absolutely spot on All the time people make judgement like that, I don't think it's worth 'getting the best rep' so as not to get called out, but getting what you personally like and feel comfortable with wearing. No greater 'tell' than someone wearing a watch and feeling self-conscious of it. Who cares what the gen is supposed to cost... It's your watch, it is supposed to be on your wrist

The thing to remember, is there're 'cheap reps', and there are 'cheap reps'... Much of the stuff I saw on market stalls in Spain 18 months ago, was real junk, with the occasional nice fantasy piece thrown into the mix. Some of the stuff I've bought on CQout for about

Thanks indeed, and as you say, big up to the mod squad

No way, bro, budget reps are "best back for the buck" as if they go wrong, there's less $$s invested in them

Rep or gen, they're all just watches, think of it like the guy who works on his own car rather than taking it to the garage for every little rattle Putting the watch crown up will help, but it is only making the watch lose time, which it will then re-gain, as opposed to actually regulating the movement to make the timing constant. If you have the paperwork, it might be worth giving the AD a call and asking if they would be prepared to re-examine the watch's timing as under the original service, given it isn't in COSC standard, but if they say it will cost more, I'd be tempted to do the regulation myself and save the $$s

Thanks for the vote

Many thanks, amigo I updated my portfolio recently, but no biters so far, other than some designs I drew for a friend as an early birthday present (and potential 'advertising' ) Just a case of living within my means, and taking it a day at a time

Ahh, if you didn't have the watch prior to servicing, that does put you in a somewhat weaker position, in that you can't go in the AD guns blazing and say for certain "The watch was running at X before service, and is now running at Y, but it should be running at Z..." Did your transaction include papers for the watch, and if so, is there anything like a car's log book which might say what was done on what date of servicing? (I only ask as I've never owned a gen, so don't know if this kind of thing might be included in the papers) It might just be worth a phone call to your nearest Breitling AD to explain your situation and get their input and suggestions as to how to proceed with maybe having the watch 're-serviced'. It might just be worth cracking the caseback and regulating it yourself (certainly cheaper if you know how to adjust it yourself) Best of luck with it all

Not a watch which is frequently seen on the forum, so nice to see something a little different I hope you'll be pleased with it

No worries, I'm glad to be of help Totally fair enough if you wanted to send it back if you were out of your comfort zone with opening the caseback, and I must admit, I killed a couple of movements myself before I got the hang of adjusting the timing properly, so it really is just a case of progressing at your own rate, and learning as you go

This really is a case of the broken clock being right twice a day... I thought you were refering to the SD on the eBay link, not the one on the iPhone app I saw that just had Submariner, rather than Submariner 2000, as on the one on eBay, so wondered if it (the one on the bay) having the 2000 was a 'special feature' but I have to admit, I've never really paid that close attention to the SD dials to realize that, I just figured they said Seadweller Submariner

How fast was it running before it was sent in? If it was running faster, say +15 or +20, then at least the movement has been regulated and adjusted, (just not monitored and adjusted enough ) If it was running at +10 when it went in, I'd at the very least go back and make them aware that you're aware that the movement is still running fast, despite the fact you paid a service bill to have the timing adjusted. I've heard about movements 'settling down', but never really observed it much myself. For the most part, adjusting the timing is one of the first things I will do with a watch, after all, it's no good to me if it's not telling accurate time (within reason for a mechanical movement, of course) Maybe a movement expert could chime in about if you should give it a month to settle in before taking it back, but one thing's for sure, as above, +10 is not really acceptable for a professionally serviced COSC spec movement which was adjusted for running too fast. I'm not saying they should have sent it back at +0.2, but at least +5 would have been more reasonable and within the COSC boundary... Best of luck getting it resolved

Always, brother, it's the only way to look It really is very much appreciated, my friend, thank you

Submariner 2000, rather than just Submariner? I have to admit, I don't know too much about Seadwellers

The type of caseback fitted?

This place really is home, and a great family I have here As long as things don't get worse, I can keep treading water, it would just be nice to get some more commissions in That's good of you to say, thanks Things will pick up when the time is right, and there's more to life than money I have great friends and family, so anything else is just bonus

+10?? Totally unacceptable on a COSC rated watch, especially if it was being looked at specifically because it was running fast anyway... One would hope that the person looking at it would have thought "Hmmmm, this watch is running fast, so I'll try and tune it as close as possible within COSC..." If I can get an a21j to +0.2 a day, with nothing more complex than a set of dishwashing gloves, a toothpick and a radio-controlled clock, what's their excuse? Best of luck getting them to take care of it (and hopefully under the original service payment )

You and me both, amigo, and thanks It's not like I'm totally in the poor-house, I have enough coming in to meet my commitments, just nil disposable income, which can be a real bind at times... Not so much a case of not having cash for watches (I don't think I'll ever has as many watches as I did before, as there were just too many which never saw wrist time) but not having the cash to go out with friends once in a while, or backup incase one of the guineas has to go to the vets for some reason, the little things really. Frustrating, but not truly life-threatening. If I could shift some of my canvasses, or get a decent commission in, I'd be laughing I don't think I've ever come across a community before where the members are so willing to help others, and to help others in areas not even really related to the 'shared interest', this really is a band of brothers Many thanks, bro I guess I all I can say, is that I do what I can, and try and help out where possible The MilSub project is still very much on the cards, just temporarily on the back burner while I pay off some bills, but it will get done, and I think, at least, I certainly hope, people will be interested in the finished piece

You're absolutely right there, it certainly teaches what is important in life As above, times are hard, but not desperate, I have enough to keep the roof over my head and food on my table, just, not really much to do anything else with Knowing that things can still improve is a source of comfort I know we've not always seen eye to eye on things, so it's very much appreciated Many thanks, amigos

Thanks for the good wishes I think this would have been the result of a kind-hearted moderator rather than auto-renewal, as I spent quite a while as 'member' rather than it being a swift return to Platinum

What can I say... Times are hard and no signs of getting any better. This isn't a begging post, as things are in hand, and although the wolves are at the door, there's enough on the step to keep them outside. A few days ago, my platinum status expired, and I didn't have the spare cash to renew it immediately. To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure how long it might have been till I had the spare cash, given other financial commitments. I was therefore very surprized, and genuinely touched, to come online today to see that my status has been restored, so a big thankyou to whoever made that possible or pushed the button As soon as I can spare the upgrade fee, I will gladly donate it, perhaps it could be used to gift someone else an upgrade to platinum To say that this is an awesome community doesn't even begin to cover it. The friendships and gifts of generousity I've both seen towards others and received myself while here are more than I can repay, but things I will be grateful for well into the next life The last watch I bought is still on order, a pepsi GMT as a late birthday present for one of my best friends as an upgrade from his AP which is starting to get a bit twitchy, and a forum project is still underway. The GMT is only going to receive a little gentle aging. My friend isn't really into vintage, but neither is he the kind to wear a brand new Rolley, so a little 'camoflage' should save him embarassing questions. The forum project will be completed in due time. What can I say... Times are hard, but life is good, may peace be upon you all

Securing the rotor is easy to do with the correct tools. At the very least, you will need a precision screwdriver, a pair of very fine tweezers or tic removers, surgical gloves, and regular dishwashing gloves. Put on the dishwashing gloves, and with your thumbs, apply pressure in a counter-clockwise direction. Might feel like you're going to rip the pads away from the thumb bed, but keep with it, and the caseback will loosen enough to remove (obviously stop if you are going to injure yourself ) The rotor attaches to the center of the movement with a small screw. Swap your gloves for the surgical ones to prevent the oils from your fingers getting on the movement, use the tweezers to put the screw back into place once you have properly aligned the rotor, and then tighten the screw. Swap back to the dishwashing gloves, and, making sure that the o-ring is in place to provide a watertight seal, replace the caseback and use thumb pressure to rotate the caseback until you can't move it any more (for fear of ripping thumbnails off again) and you should then be good to go