TeeJay

Thanks for looking Here's the only other pic I have... It doesn't show any close detail, but it's a little clearer due to the distance from the page... Another thought, does the description sound at all familiar?

Sorry for the poor photos, they were snapped on my iPhone, in the newsagent, and the image on the page, was smaller than the nail on my little finger... As the photos are so poor, the colors are not entirely accurate to as they were with the naked eye, so I'll do my best to describe the watch... It has the look of a Tudor Chronograph, I'm fairly sure it's not a Daytona or Omega Chronograph... The dial is a very deep red, almost like blood. The sub dials appear to be black. The hours are marked on the dial by Arabic numerals, in either white, or luminescent printing The bracelet appears to be an Oyster bracelet... Any ideas? If so, are there any reps of it? Thanks in advance

I thought I'd seen a photo of a Sub on a rubber strap before I think something like that should be quite possible to replicate from similar styled straps I've seen online, and a Rolex clasp, from a vintage NATO-style strap from a dealer I'm hoping you might be able to help me with a watch identification on the general discussion forum in a bit But only because it is so flimsy Not so much a case of making fun of it, just the thought that it's not matching in quality as the rest of the bracelet and watch... Now, the new Rolex bracelets, and the ones on the Deep Sea, those are well made clasps, which match the quality of the rest of the watch I guess it's just personal taste Personally, I'd only wear a bracelet which had a diver's extension, as that's a function I'm likely to use (even if not necessarily for diving ) which the Jubilee and Presidential bracelets lack Pics, bro, pics Couldn't agree more Indeed, I think it's just a matter of personal choice That's the philosophy behind most of my projects

Interesting watch, it looks good

I know what you mean, bro. I should clarify, that while I enjoy tinkering with watches to build them as I want them, I don't enjoy tinkering with watches to fix shoddy workmanship which shouldn't've been sold at a full price. It's like with the Quartz watches I was messing with last week. I didn't mind having to tweak the movement contacts when I did a movement transplant, as I was having to make that movement work with that particular case, but if I had had to tweak the movement in its own case, that would have irritated me... So with that MOP dial, sure, I might've scraped off the excess paint, but I wouldn't've been happy doing it, and I would've written a suitable review about it. Although I'd've been quite happy to sit and snap the dial up more, just to get an interesting antique look to it It's one thing to modify a watch because I want to, and another to modify a watch because I have to. And of course, as you say, there are folks who don't enjoy that process at all, or, who might be prepared to do it, but lack the knowledge or skills to do it... For folks like that, indeed, it'd be a frustrating situation... I guess that's the risk of using dealers who drop-ship... Maybe they should hire a new minion at the warehouse to actually seperate stock into 'acceptable', and 'bargain bin' catagories, and then sell accordingly

Thanks for the link, bro, that's certainly an eye opener, but I totally agree, the work on those markers is just garbage, and you'd certainly be right to say that I wouldn't wear something looking that bad. However, I would make this caveat: If the indice was 'shaped' as it is on the gen, and that was simply paint overspill, then I would be prepared to de-case the watch and scratch off the excess paint with a jeweler's screwdriver (I had to do that with my DIY Sub-on-a-Strap, as I accidentally touched the sharpie to an indice while obscuring the lower dial print, and hadn't realized how noticeable it was until I'd re-cased the watch, but it was the work of only a few minutes to do.) I admit, a watch shouldn't be coming out of a dealer's stock, as a fully-priced item in a condition like that, and if each of the indices need 're-touching', it would probably be an hour's work, which I shouldn't have to do, but I would probably be prepared to do it. On the other hand, if the indices weren't shaped, such touch up work would take much longer Again, I'd probably be prepared to do it, but I wouldn't expect to be paying top dollar for something in that condition... This was why I mentioned to By-Tor, how I thought that there should be a 'bargain bin' section on dealer's sites, where a watch like that could be sold at a really reduced price, on the understanding that it is flawed, and will require modding work. Crazy as it sounds, I actually like how the crack looks, and truth be told, I would probably have proceeded to crack the dial further, to give a really antiqued look to it

I think you're right, the bracelet definitely has an identity of it's own, but, I feel Rolexes are nice enough watches to stand up on their own, without the bracelet. I admit, my cobbled together Silix Sub is by no means modding perfection, but, on the strap, I think it looks quite elegant, and I think the addition of an Air-King dial would increase that elegance Maybe not to the point of it looking anything other than a fantasy watch, but I think I will visually work (assuming the dial fits okay ) I do get what you mean about the modern strap and the older looking watch head... I think if it was a modern Sub, rather than a vintage model, I don't think the two would look so incongruous... To be fair, that is a very sporty, modern strap (when I first looked, I was on my iPhone, but now I'm on my PC, I can see that that is definitely an Omega strap) I think something much plainer, such as this strap, would be more complimentary of a Submariner

The dial which is fitted at the moment, is 28mm, so a 27mm dial would fit in without problem, there wouldn't be any clearance issue at all from that regard, my only concern, is if the rehaut would definitely cover the edges of the 27mm dial... I have uncased the watch in the past, but I don't have digital calipers, so I had to use an old fashioned tape measure to measure the dimensions

That looks pretty good The strap looks like an Omega strap, unless it's an aftermarket strap patterned after the Omega strap

I'm not sure if this is what you meant, but I hope it's of help

Well, regardless of who did the work, it's a very nice watch, I'll be keen to read the review when you have time

Ahh, I see what you mean... The combined dial/movement assembly could still have a little 'wobble' in it... Would the movement holder not prevent that happening, or does it really rely on the dial for that ultimate stability?

It's awesome How long have you been working on it? I guess painting the Orange hand would be out of the question

Very nice, my friend. Very nice indeed

All just 'anti-counterfeit' propoganda.

Or is that just a sick no no and not done in polite society?

Welcome to the party, bro

How about if it's mounted with sticky dots? To be honest, I quite like how that particular Air-King looks anyway, so if it doesn't fit, the worst case scenario is I put the dial back in the original case Thanks for the feedback though, it's much appreciated

In that case, I'll have to mention: CJ Parker... Lifeguard and somewhat New Age spiritualist...

I'll throw a new character into the mix Captain Jack Harkness: Developed a strange fixation with the wardrobes of WWII, despite actually being from the 51st Century Only seen wearing a Rolex Air-King date in Torchwood to date (although in a recent publicity shot for Season 3, he could be wearing a Tudor Chronograph) No Rolexes or Tudors, as the actor who portrays the character frequently wears Rolexes in his daily life (and has been spotted wearing an Ebel Discovery Chronograph) Has also been known to dress thusly: So don't fall for the Forties obsession...

Damn, exposed at last Nothing to apologize for, dive watches aren't to everyone's taste, but, there's definitely a particular magic to them

Looking good Out of curiousity, what's the surface they're on? It's not a draining board is it?

Awesome watches, muchachos Nothing particularly different from me today, but, I haven't worn this shirt in a wristie before, and it's been a while since I rolled my sleeves down, but today, I am absolutely

It's the same day, just different birth years To mangle a quote from the Highlander TV Series: Same model, different vintage

Yes, that's precisely what I was meaning. It will somtimes be an issue from the construction end. That's why I was meaning that any stock which makes its way to a dealers warehouse (or however they keep it) which is of 'factory seconds' quality, that stuff gets put in the 'bargain' section, and priced accordingly. I think the dealers would get much less complaints about things like that, (such as the member with the DSSD with the wonky 12 marker) if they were to sell them at a reduced price, on the understanding that they're being sold 'as is', with the aim of someone buying it as a mod project, rather than selling a perfect item. That way, they'd only be dealing with returns on serious issues (failures of crowns etc) rather than the more 'nit picking' stuff. I think folks would also then be less upset with their purchase, as they'd know that paying top dollar means getting the good watch, paying less, would mean getting something they know will be imperfect, but which they can then mod as a project To be honest, the only mechanical issue I've experienced out of all my watch purchases, was my very first PAM, which had no power reserve, and would stop after a few hours, and an FM Crazy Hours I bought for my wife, which did not 'jump' fully in the one go, although the replacement worked fine...