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Strawman my ass, the fact of the matter, is that it is one of the most humane methods of slaughter available. Bt how much, was not the issue. And how many mainstream supermarkets are prepared to pay for hunters to bring in the meat? Where did I say that? Dani mentioned halal, I simply clarified that it is one of the most humane slaughter methods available. I know you like arguing for the sake of it, and I've got better things to do with my time than indulge you [Edit to add] I forgot to mention, there's nothing stopping animals from being electronically stunned before being killed in the halal manner.

Which is the more humane method of execution? Strangulation, or severing the jugular? I'm not out to win points, I'm just stating a fact. It is more humane than strangling an animal to death. If the animal is unconscious (which it should be) then it isn't going to suffer. Plenty of the western methods of animal slaughter, which are supposed to be humane, can just as equally only leave the animal dazed or suffering, so the killing blow itself is still traumatic. At the end of the day, the point I was illustrating, is that what one society views as acceptable, another may not, but, the idea of 'tollerance', does not mean forcing that other society to start following the practices of the other. I wasn't even going to mention it. You decided, for whatever reason, to 'bring that one to the table'. Does Godwins only apply to references to Nazism? Arguing for the sake of arguing isn't going to win you brownie points either

I see what you mean about the stain on the dial and the scratched hands. Those are pretty shocking. The movement looks great though, and if the case/cgs have come up nicely, you could indeed have the beginings of a good project watch I'm sure a skilled modder will be able to breathe life back into it PS Two cg screws missing in the post? I suspect someone is telling you fibs

I'd say the issue is one of proportions rather than height. My wife is about 5'6", but, her legs are about 4" too short (proportionately) to her body. She is also 'long in the body', so has a real issue getting tops which are long enough, without being oversized in the bust/arms. Of couse, if her legs were 4" longer, she'd be 5'10", and probably wouldn't look as long in the body, although she'd still have the issue of finding tops that fit Given that I'm about 6'2", I have a feeling our children will be on the tall side On the topic of bespoke garments.... I've never had a suit tailored, but, did have a leather jacket custom made for me It's a replica of this jacket:

And you think PETA would show something showing halal slaughter in a positive light? Try a little less biassed sources of information next time... I'm not making comments about halal slaughter just because I'm a Muslim, I'm simply stating the facts about it. If done properly, unconsciousness is near instantaneous, with death following closely (while the animal is unconscious) This applies to Humans as well as animals. There was a story in the news not so long ago, about a man who was died as a result of a fight (which he actually provoked) because a blow to his neck tore his jugular, and he bled to death internally. I suspect, that as the bleeding was only internal, the process took longer, but, had it been an 'open wound', he would have been dead even quicker. What is savage about killing an animal in as humane manner as possible? How about strangling something to death, or snapping the neck of an animal in your hands? Those are not humane methods of slaughter, and would traumatise the animal (especially if it is not killed on the first attempt) Cutting the jugular vein, however, is a near foolproof method of slaughter (providing the blade is sharp, and the person knows what they are doing. Victoria's post also covers much that I would agree with.

PS How come no one says this if people show a load of watches from other dealers?

Indeed, HBB's are certainly a nice size for a watch. Personally, I'm not too keen on them, but, size-wise, they're pretty good

Please bear in mind that she is not in the 'old battle-axe' catagory of mother in law, rather 'older-version-of-wife-who-you-should't-fancy-but-do-anyway' catagory

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Having worn PAMs for about six months, I can't even wear my Sub now. It just looks so small in comparison. An SMP still looks small in comparison, but, is just big enough to remain 'tolerable'. PAM's all the way for me now

I'm just disappointed that it's only a 15 certificate Belladonna makes some of the best porn. She's no sissy

In the photo directly above your last post, the one on the right hand side is 0521, where the other is 0117. From what I can tell, mine (0117) is the same case and dial as Davidsens, just without the Swiss movement

Nice selection Had you thought about a Vintage Radiomir? I think Tony has Radiomirs in rose gold, they might be worth a look. With regards the Rolex Prince, I bought that watch in SS for my mother in law's birthday last year. Despite her initial concern that it might be 'too big', she soon got used to it, and wore it daily, until I got her an FM Jump Hours for Christmas Best of luck with your purchase

Maybe a little. But, with good reason. Your first experiences with reps have not been positive (the 127 incident. How's that working out, by the way?) That's going to put you off, and only naturally so. Say you eat a bad meal at a restaurant, you might be wary of eating there again, or, of eating that particular dish again. It's only natural to be wary of things which have disappointed us in the past. But... If you buy one which has been well built (it need not even be the 'Ultimate' version of a watch, just one which has been well put together) with no glaring manufacturing faults (which are not the same as aesthetic flaws/tells) then you shouldn't need to feel ashamed or embarrassed to wear the watch in public or for people to look at it. If, as a watch, (regardless of aesthetic accuracy) it has been well built, then it will stand on its own merits, and people will view it as a nice watch. Totally understandable, but, don't forget, watch enthusiasts (like on these forums) make up something like 0.1% of the population. While you might encounter someone who says they 'like watches', chances are, they're not going to know much about the subject itself. 99.9% of the population, are likely to not notice, or, those who do, likely won't even think "Is that fake?" unless, you happen to be wearing a Rolex. If you're wearing a Rolex, all bets are off. In people's mind, Rolex = Fake People are always going to ask/think "Is that fake?" simply because it is a Rolex. Wearing a PAM, on the other hand, is much less likely to get that response, simply because most folks won't have a clue as to what they're looking at. I've mentioned before, the time last summer when I was sitting on the bus wearing my 111h with jeans and a T-Shirt, and the guy who sat next to me, couldn't take his eyes off my wrist. He never said anything, but he was staring at my watch all the way into town. A few weeks ago, my wife and I were out with friends, when I noticed one of them was staring at my wrist. At first, I thought she was just trying to see the time (despite having a watch on herself) so I lifted my arm up. She carried on staring at it, then said "That's a really nice watch!" Didn't matter than my wife was standing right next to me, it still made me feel like a mack daddy to be thus complimented (It wouldn't've mattered if I'd been complimented on my watch/shoes/tattoos, compliments are always nice to receive) She didn't have a clue as to what the watch was (it was my 029a) she just liked the watch for 'how it looked'. That's the kind of reactions you can expect from a PAM (especially something like the 44MM) People are going to either think it looks 'big and ugly', or, think it looks nice. The key thing to remember, is not how accurate the watch is to the gen counterpart (as most people won't even know those details to make a comparison) but how well made the watch itself is, ie, no dust under the crystal, no scratched hands ( ) crisp, clear dial markings, decent leather strap. When judging a watch by those standards (and that's all a non-watch enthusiast can judge it by) it doesn't matter how accurate to the gen counterpart it is, it will stand or fall on its own merits, and, most of the watches here, will certainly stand up to that kind of scrutiny. It's only the Canal St crap with the jumping second sweeps which will make a 'civilian' think "Is that fake?"

The method is not cruel, if it is performed correctly. The Qur'an states that it is forbidden to eat flesh of an animal which has suffered in it's death (ie in a fall, goring, strangling etc) The Qur'an does not permit cruelty to animals. While you may not personally approve of the method of halal slaughter, that does not make it barbaric or cruel. If performed correctly, unconsciousness is near instantaneous, with death soon following. It does not cause suffering. Infact, it is not allowed for someone to slaughter an animal infront of another animal, as that could distress the 'next animal inline'. I respect your right to your own opinion, but saying that something is barbaric does not actually make it so. As I said previously, different cultures have their own ways of doing things. We may not personally like those things, but, it is not our place to criticise them, or make them conform to the standards of Western Society.

Likewise. Although it might not apply due to international locations and jurisdictions, as an interesting legal point, in UK law, someone can be charged with threatening to assault someone (or otherwise causing them distress) (even if the threat is not carried out), and the Malicious Communications Act makes it an offence to send a message (by any means, ie letter, text, computer etc) with the intention of it causing distress/offense. Even if the message is not delivered to the named person, if the message is given to someone else, and there is the possibility that the named person could find out about it, the offense still stands. The offense is the intent with which someone delivers the message, not the specifics of the message itself.

Likewise, my usual beater combo for me Okay, so the strap might not be corporate smart, but, it's color still makes it incredibly versatile When it comes to not wanting to swap straps to match different colored shoes, but wanting something which will go with all of them, I think burgundy/bordeaux has to be the choice

Given Neil's history on other forums, and comments to members here, is it really such a stretch of the imagination to believe he would threaten the admin? Is it really that hard to accept that that is how he behaves online?

I think you answer the question yourself there, amigo. You'll never be happy with a rep, so buy the gen. That said, I would point out, that, to the general public, PAMs are just 'big, ugly watches'. You might get someone stare at it on a bus, or have a hot female friend comment on it ( ) but you won't get any of the "is it real??!!" that goes with wearing a Rolex... Certainly not from everyday people. As I've said before, a rep will always be a rep, it can never become a gen. But. That's not to say that a rep can't be as good as a gen... Look at the 44MM on display a few threads up/down. Might be a fantasy watch, but it looks really nice, probably keeps good time (which, at the end of the day, is all they need to do ) and, isn't going to draw challenging questions from people other than "What is that?" Of course, that's then down to you to either say that it's a replica of a WWII Italian Navy diver's watch, or, it's a Real Panerai, which cost as much as the person's car All I'm saying, is, don't write reps off entirely, as you might find one that does satisfy you. Or, if nothing but gen will do, then, that's what you'll have to go with

It might just be the shape of the reflections, but, beneath the bezel, there appear to be the 'shoulders' of a Luminor case, with the 'tooth-shaped' lugs. I admit, the dial wouldn't be right, but, who knows what Canal St junk he's been sold... Radiomirs don't have crown guards

I'm just pleased that I'd guessed what the basic controlls did. I suspect, that operating them correctly, will be considerably harder Sorry, I don't understand what you mean...

I actually just found an informative online article on how to fly a helicopter Looks like I already had the basic controls/operations about right in my mind Watching Airwolf taught me something afterall

Awesome, all I need now, is the actual lessons to put it into practice That's what steward/esses are for, right?

You're quite right there, it is a redundance, probably just one of those technical terms which gets lost in translation (to be necessary) For example, with my phone, when the headphones are plugged in, the display flashes "Headphones plugged in!" When they are removed, rather than saying "Headphones unplugged!", it flashes "Headphones plugged out!" Technically, it is correct, they are 'plugged out', but, that's not how someone would normally say it. Maybe it's the case with synthetic sapphire, and they (whoever 'they' may be) have come to believe that they need to specify it as synthetic, rather than natural sapphire