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Good Job I wont be in Thailand for this holiday Cant get a good steak anywhere there .

Possibly in Yarhoo Nebraska But in the UK & the rest of the planet No it dont .

"Do You Think It Is Kinda Of Over The Top To Drive A Bmw ?" ---- a Three Series ------ YES If you're a 17 year old fledgling drug dealer living/trading on a UK council estate, claiming benefits otherwise, Its just a 3 series Beemer! .

XL .

and ogling dens .

Markups, smarkups....... ADs . Diamonds !!!!!! Why not checkout markups on ILLEGAL items Last time I looked a Kg of Columbia's finest was $11K in Cali But I hazard even Puggy's brother can get you one for that price :-) .

Yup.... you could keep on adding adding to that list till you arrived at aliens & O.B.Laden But, realisticly a revenge grievant wouldnt be so circuitous, I would have expected the GAF et al scenario not a little meddling with PayPal's foibles. If this 'scene' really upset you, would inflicting it with a payment option annoyance be your first thought? .

If working chronos (non quartz) yes he speaks with forked tongue If 21j Asian from source in GZ......... OK .

Sorry, But so far it points to ..... any instance of their name / logo being used for sales here is 'unleashing the hounds'..... I think if , as a member selling, you just do what you do but sort out pyment arrangement 'off forum' you should have no worries. .

GAF et al........ Hardly, they ARE NOT in the business of tiptoeing about, being a nuisance hither and thither, passing on free tips to aid PayPal. No They are lawers (for God's sake) in the business of taking ACTION against counterfeiters so that they can BILL their CLIENTS accordingly If GAF and pals were raining sh#t here we would be seeing a whole different ball game. Sorry, But PP being 'tipped the wink' by someone with an agenda who perceives themself(ves) as having little to lose and something to gain - is sadly a glove with a much snugger fit! .

Ah hhhhaa!! A mental exercise my overly suspicious mind persued at the onset Play the usual: who could? who would? who would it affect? who wouldnt it? who wins? who loses? trains of thought............... logical outcome might surprise you .

UK/Uk and UK/EU arnt a problem.....finding a replacement on line system for USA based people is the challenge .

Cheers .

And judging from the 'in confidence' PMs I've been receiving its even more far reaching .

Perhaps, but a possibilty that hadnt escaped me

Issue with me or not, having 'let slip the dogs of war' whoever caused it, cannot control where they subsequently attack! BTW I as most already know have no issues with any customer............. Perhaps you should re read 'It now seems that I cannot openly offer PayPal as an option on any rep items' a coupla times .

Well I got back safe n sound to the UK on Valentines Day (incurable romantic that I am!) all fine and dandy....................... Yesterday I get the 'Acceptable Use' bad news off PayPal (always a possibility - but strange after some 6 weeks or so total inertia) On re-reading the lengthy diatribes they sent, I saw with surprise that the website they are taking exception to is none other than RWG ! Copy Paste of the relevant bits: Although I view this as highly suspicious - due to its timing (I could swallow it being simply 'in house' checks by PayPal when I was in full flow with full listings and Buy Now buttons in regular use - but not now. having had zero listings & sales for such an extended time!) - It now seems that I cannot openly offer PayPal as an option on any rep items. As to how far and wide PP's information trawl permeates the activities past and present of buyers and sellers here......only time will tell .

Well fortunately Ive just arrived back in the UK a few hours ago..................... I have a few baubles to look at while all the Tiddly Winks are praising pigs and offering bottles of whisky to their automobiles for two weeks or so........ Just give me chance to photo etc .

Has it occurred to anyone that there must be a reason why TTK hasnt blistered his feet scampering to MBK in order to assauge the massive thirst for these watches. The source is after all now public knowledge. Ive even been spotted myself prowling the self same mall, yet I have never made advances towards this 'oh so easy' trade. Maybe I should do my civic duty here and burst a few bubbles...... There are a few good wholesale suppliers in BKK, unfortunately our friend 'Nah [censored]' doesnt count as one. Yes he is the fount of all MBW Rolex.....but in all other respects hes just another slash 'n burn stall holder: overcharging (other than the famed Rollies - all else he sells, such as the Jumbo nautilus with phoney PR, I can source elsewhere in BKK substantialy cheaper), no guarantees and exactly the kind of bastard you never hand over money to . Without ranting on and on, stop and consider the implications of just those two little words.....NO Guarantee and think this thru before coreographing any mass buy. But as Ive said before...Hey what do I know! .

Yes lots of them....... Stiff upper lips Christmas trees Sunday Roasts Vandalism Lager Louts Awful Food The list goes on & on ......... .

Duality..... my mouth shut? or the collective silence of many shut mouths???? As the actions of the subjects of this thread have ABSOLUTELY NO bearing on myself (if they collectively sell 10,000 watches today, rip off any or all their customers, or dissappear in a cloud of oriental smoke, it will fortunately not impact on me one iota), and there are at the last check no 'skeletons in my cupboard' I surely cant be in any 'deep water'. So this must by a process of elimination be a reference to the collective silence over Neil's post. Although the sublety seems to have been lost I really thought the 'Drug Deal' scenario wholly germaine. You see as with most criminal trades, strength is the only arbiter (as by nature the business operates outside the influence of legalities). And theres the rub, when strength equals or exceeds that of another the unbridled nature of the game is that you then take liberties with the weaker party. Here on the forum the buyers 'strength' with the dealers is the threat of ostracism & consumer power (wallet voting & public denouncing), all fine and dandy, but , now you have the situation that anothers strength has brought about the (inevitable) liberty take, and the soul searching question 'whatya gonna do now?' is laid at your door. You see there you have it - the guantlet is at your collective feet - (I myself am a fortunate spectator in this scenario) I wonder if the exponents of the "he's only put it in a little bit, and he's always been so nice he surely won't push it in any further" school o thought will get there wish .

Irrelevancies, (copulating or otherwise) in this thread? Surely not! .

Having only been able to read the d'loaded email notifications for this thread (damn connexion here) I may have missed bits, but, a lot of what I read is perplexing... Neil posted - a subsequently largely overlooked or dissmissed - post which lucidly outlined the minimum immediate action that I would expect any forum dealer to carry out. Certainly I would not need it drawn out for me if I found myself in such lamentable circumstances. A comment was made that 'all dealers here have unresolved issuse'...errr boll**ks! there is at the very least ONE that doesn't It was also pointed out that you cannot sue over illegal dealings (the misrepresented drug deal being quoted), so true.... in most of these (illegal) circs you 'row your own boat'...any 'misrepresentation' must be taken as an immediate personal affront and be dealt with with all the resourses at your disposal and with as much violence as you can inflict!! If not, your career will be very short lived indeed. Here on the forum(s) we enjoy a utopian situation which gives 'high street' standards (or better) for tacitly illicit goods with no fear of ghetto tactics. As an interesting aside, under UK law a drug dealer who say conspired to rip off another with a substitute (say 10Kgs of household flour instead of the expected Columbian finest) can be prosecuted for conspiracy to obtain money by deception!!!!! I find the undercurrent of 'One scam is forgivable so long as good service (past & present) is forthcoming' intriguing............maybe we dealers should bear that sentiment in mind But what do I know. .

Mmmmmm Just got the meager connect speed to view this in its voluminous entirety "Industry Standard Terminoligy" now there's a laugh..... Here are a few of the definitive terms used throughout the 'industry' in China/Asia: SATAINLESS STEEEWL = any metalic substance SAWISS = any movement other than a standard 21j or a quartz that doesnt bear China markings SAPPHIRRI = any translucent material on a watch that will withstand the tactic of having a ballpoint 'scratched' over it For the record I see part of my role/responsibility as a dealer here on the forums to protect my customers from this BS.....not to perpetuate it! .

'Dropskipping' I cant help you with Dropshipping on the other hand is..... Remote (distance) order taking/forwarding With rep watches it is someone who takes your order & money then forwards (by email etc) your postal details and item(s) required to a third (remote) party - invariably in China. And there's the rub ......... Anyone with experience of Chinese wholesalers knows that you are 'up against it' getting ANYTHING done to your satisfaction if you are not personally standing over them. Their idea of customer care is not on the same wavelength as that of Westerners (read, they don't give a flying f**k once they have your money). So assuming that what, when, & how things are sent by a Chinese 'agent' (at the behest of a drop-shipper sometimes a continent or two distant from them) will be OK, is a recipe for disappointment. And No I dont dropship or involve myself in any aspect of it. .