FROGMAN

Looks gen....but damn that's pricey

Not sure I know how to respond to the toilet comment at the end

What's the price now ??? Is it >500 euro

Wow that is very cool...rolex should have done the black dw from the factory...damn that's cool

I love it! Please give us the recipe.

Nice to see you! We are neighbors!

First let me welcome you to the forum. I'm actually surprised you received this much feedback considering your question is,"who has the best sub?" The reason I say this is this is one of the most common questions received on the forum(s) and is a running joke when it comes to new members....hell, I did the same thing when I first arrived on the rep scene. However it sounds like you have already done some research. Let me try to help..... Consider Andrew simply a vendor....although he's a great choice and will deliver a good product you get what you get with him and that's a rep. Chances are you will be happy with the purchase at first and as you recognize the flaws over time then you'll probably start to look for someone to perform upgrades or modifications on the watch to make it closer to gen. This is where BK comes in.....he started his rep career modifying Rolex replicas and eventually started to offer them for sale as it made it easier on him and us. BK is a perfectionist and it shows in all his work. Yes, you will pay for this service but his products are amazing. With that said I'd suggest the following....start with Andrews watch. It's a cheaper alternative and will allow you to get understanding of this hobby first hand without spending a lot of money upfront. In my opinion this gives you a good benchmark to start this hobby and establishes true expectations. As your skills evolve you'll begin to learn what to look for (I.e. rehault, pearls, fonts, cgs, crown position, etc, etc...). Later on you might contact BK and ask him to perform some upgrades on your watch as well. As an alternative I'd suggest contacting PBdad.......he's an amazing modder IMO and can take your rep to an entirely different level Bottom line, the answer to your question is subjective so you will get conflicting answers from our members depending on where they are in their "rep careers". One thing I can guarantee you....if you love this hobby this subc will not be your last submariner. Good luck!

Same here....I received mine a week or so ago and tried them today. They are huge compared to the original. Back to the drawing board

Perfect....thank you....forgot about this guy

Hey folks, I've been wearing the hell out of my PAM 243 v2 noob and the other night I realized one of the screws at fallen out of the Crown Guard. No telling where I actually lost it or how long it had been gone....so I'm on the hunt for a replacement set. I usually buy them from Panatime but he's sold out for the moment. Does anyone know where I can get a set? I'm hoping to find something in the USA if possible. Thanks! Frogman

Damn I love it....I'd say the estimates given above are right on. Good luck b

I have a rep version sitting in my case right now. I never wear it.....send me a pm if you want it.....we will work out something.

Just saw your 24 go up for sale bro... U sure you want to sell it? Damn nice piece.

As promised here are some macro pics....not bad for an iPhone. Disregard the dust on the crystal. Also the dial texture is hard to capture. It has to be the camera and not the user

Holy crap I love the Tudor subs....next time you part with in of those let me know

That's what was odd on this build.....the case was sold to me as a cartel version but I've had those and yes they all had the dw alignment issue. This watch has never had that problem. I'm thinking it could be an earlier cartel case though. Also all gen parts fit without an issue.

Your overlay was the last upgrade that I had done. It honestly made the watch. The texture on the overlay is so damn good too.....not sure what you used JMB but WOW....very nice work indeed.

Yep, I'm charging my iPhone right now....I'll try the macro function and if that doesn't work I have a loupe that I can use as well. I'll get some macro pictures posted. On a side note, one of our members posted an attachment for the iPhone recently that was marketed as a microscope...and I'm so tempted to order it. I'm not a photographer so I can't really justify a nice macro setup for my camera.

Send your money to me and I will surprise you with something nice ......lol Out of all my gens the breitling gets the most wrist time. Awesome watch and the finishing is outstanding.

Upo all the way if it's a rep

At least it wasn't "who's got the best sub".

Woof I've been around these forums going on 7 years now and I've had a lot of 1680s (from different modders) and I have to tell you PB is on top of my list. His vintage Rolex pieces are awesome. He even got the texture on the dial correct. I'll try to capture it with my iPhone so you can see the detail. Zoom in and look at the red text....he managed to age it as well. Only thing that I would love to do to this watch would be to tighten the bezel a little more.....other than that it is a great piece until I find the gen!

I got lucky and picked up the base on a sales thread. Since then pb worked a lot of magic on it. I can't stress how nice his work is on the bracelet.....this sells it for me

Oh and one last ingredient to the recipe...... LOVE ....wait....nevermind....that's a different recipe

Well hey Wolf....hope all is well with you bro. Specs you ask.....Specs you will get....Here we go: Cartel Base with ETA 2846 Bracelet was totally reworked (softened, aged, stretched, and softened some more)...PB out did himself on this part and it's my favorite by far GEN crown GEN tube Case was softened and aged Case holes were drilled Case holes shaped and softened GEN spring bars End links were added and adjusted to fit against the case nice and tight GEN 127 NOS crystal (still in original packaging) GEN insert and pearl PBdad's special blend of lume for that aged effect and it glows like a mutha PBdad's dial refinishing process applied JMB's silver datewheel with flat top "3" JMB's retaining ring CGs were shaved and shaped I think that's it.......yep.....that should do it.