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Thank you for your help I think i could try to drill the case because finding the exact one for the rep might be hard. I have been able to source gen crown (for case 168.1640), but not the crown tube, i still cant find it's ref in omega part list anywere online. I guess ofrei could deliver based on the case number though... If by chance anyone has an extra (rep or gen ) laying around i am interested ..

This has been discussed a few time around moding the main engine of a quartz movement is not somthing u can really do, and rep maker have to put available movement on there watch, wich are designed for the "normal" market . If reping is not a matter such a quartz movement would be non sense. Quartz movement are totaly frozen until they beat (timming based on quartz osillation) Since it would have to get electrical impulse 5 to 7 time a second battery would last 2-3 month .. No engenier is going to design such a movement for a normal watch

man you'r really killing me ... pushing the art in the slightest detail ... keep up !!

Yes i have been thinking in having it been serviced since a while, specially since it falled off my bathroom shef on the tiling the hour hands is slightly unaligned. But strangly whenever i have 400 bucks available for watch stuff, i get attracted to a new replica and so far i dont feel confortable enough with watchmaking to service this watch myself.

Hi all. I am in need of a crown tube for the classical SMP (black model but that shouldn't matter). I dunno exacltly how to get one Do you knows if a gen would fit ? (observing the broken one i have it look too cheapo to be made to gen spec). And if not, does anybody knows what are the spec (diameter, lenght ..) i should seek for ? thks

Yes you are absolutly right. Specialy because rolex is making very very robust watch and in term of design/movement respect a lot the K.I.S.S paradigm (keep it simple stupid). But it could be more acuratly be compared to a sieko en term of value. somone mentinoned sieko in a previous post and i do think the best sieko are very high quality watch even if the get very little prestige for not being a swiss brand ...

were you unlucky with your rolex movement ? because i mostly think rolex claims you need services every 5 years to make even more buisness ... I own a datjust from 1967 and it was never serviced and it's my daily watch, the one i really trust when it comes to action, like ski, swiming etc... last time i did some freeride snowbording with a SMP rep, the glass had fallen off the watch at the end of the day, olso i had a PAM loose it crown guard for doing motocycle (to many vibration for the screw). One of my best friends own a GMT 1 from his grand father (made in mid 60's) and it was just serviced once, only because the watch had been 5 year without being wear at all. My buisness partner baughth itself a sub when he turned 18, and he is now 36 and he has been wearing that watch every day since then, with no service ... On the other hand, my mom lady datejust was serviced a zilion time and never kept correct time, she his now wearing a Quart :/ (the watch survived many year of travling in africa though ..) My point is that even if we can be very happy with the overall quality of the reps around, it is still no match to genuine in term of robustness.

@crystalcranium i totaly agree, reps have been in mass production for decade. and for most "normal" people the price we pay for it is madness It olso take a lot of interest in watch to make those watch last (servicing, understandding basic problems etc ...) Still if you dont whant to fell as average jhon doe, with the growing of fakes, dont buy a Sub

Olso i dont think that a newer version of a 7750 replica has to be more reliable than the old one. Of course the movement itself is, but that dont mean the watch you get has to be, since you can have lot of trouble with the way the movemnt is handled at the "factory" during casing. movement are not allaways cased in a place we would call a factory ... For example my omega SMP stoped 2 day after i recived it, and it was a swiss movement, because the part that fixed it to the retention ring were to small, so they actually puted 2 little metal plate with just one screwed over the second one .. So a few day later the second one had gone loose and was freely moving in the case until it falled into the balance, blocking the palet. I had to open the watch and fix that. that the kind of trouble caused by lack of QC that you can get with any quality of movement.

the IWC chrono wich is day/date was available with old 7750 i think the asian version being a mostly accurate copy of the swiss design (quality apart) it can prolly be moded as it swiss contrepart and olso offer moonphase or even GMT ...

I would say you can swap a swiss 7750 to an asian one. It has been done for several pam 196/188 etc.. , and it accepted the whole tranfert weels to make it into a 3-6-9 (the 196 is really a 7753), there is even a complete The Zigmeister picture report on that somwhere... What you CANT do is swap swiss 7753 to a 7750 even if it moded to 3-6-9 because it certainly wont accept the date weel and probably the dial ...

I wasn't at all finding that injustified as the 7753 movement itself is around 400$. So that makes a 700$ rep worth at least 400$ whatsoever (compared to 0$ values of an asian copie cased into a rep for anyone that's not willing to get a replica). I was just saying that it was a lot of money added just to be satisfied with the product, and that it could be extended the same way to the material of the rep. I would be much more satisfied with a solid gold 1:1 dress watch than a plated, even if it is mostly self satisfaction we are talking about, as the real resell value of such a watch in, let's say 10 year, is very doubtfull

it's exacly what i'm saying, i would consider buying a real solid gold rep (with everything else at 1:1) for extra $$$, while i am certainly not considering a plated .... Considering Fast Freddy's solid gold reps, were are talking of daytonas, so yes that a lot of gold .. but a PP calatrava on aligator strap would be an other story.

Probably most ppl that buy reps watch wouldn't be ready to spend 500$ more on a rep ...they seek a sub in the 200$ range at max. Around here btw the true afictionados & watch fanatic i am shure some would. Let's say a true solid gold rolex, or nice calatrava with full real wite gold case ... if the repe is a 1:1 and only if it is, it could sell ... Olso remeber gold is not that expensive (precious time expalin that very well in a thread around here). It's like puting 500$ more for a 7753 pam over an asian 7750.

Seamaster Pro from king relumed with C1 by me, waiting for longer genuine hands from ofrei ....

a part from the delete traceroute this discussion doesnt involve anythings that isn't allready public (no secrets here) and what was private in the first delete trace was the tracer's ip, the destination ip "has" to be routed so known to clients ...

i write this as the auction is over by an hour ... But i'll give you my advice in case you have some regrets ... i don't think it was worth it . I wasn't a working movement so that would have meaned $$ to get it fixed (unless you got the skill yourself then just time) plus broken parts if there were any could have been hard and costly to source. this rolex movement is not the one that could have been inserted in a vintage pam rep to make it a great peice. (it's the Cortebert 17 jewels in those). yesterday an auction of 9 whole rolex movement ended at 180€ and THAT one i am mad i missed it cause there where variouq models including Cortberts .... all where none working but with many movement it's easy to fix at least one. that get you an idear of what really good deal you can find time to time ..

No no ! it wasnt i fixed it

if i wasn't saving for a daytona rep i would pp that easy ... link

hiya dan welcome here .. quality watch parts as your are allways welcome cheers

Actually the lume aging is only exagerated in regards of the other parts of the dial ... On lesser quality vintage rep that often the problem (not to speack of those who just apply an horible lemon yelow color). You could soften a bit the ageing, as the rest of the watch is suposely "very well" preserved or why not age the whole dial a bit more ... i still dont see that other flow i missed ..somthing with the lume spot at 3&9 ?

damn i am searching ... When you say "we're working on it" do you mean those are still produced i was on the impression that DW vintage were not avalaible anymore ... Cause if "that" is is still worked on, it's going to be really damn close !!!

imo the diference is quite obvious .... It's not "that" close ... let's play the "difference game" the font on the tachymeter for example and even the general aspect of the stell polish. the second hand color ... the lume aging on the rep is over-exagerated as often, but the white part of the dial aren't aged enough the daytona red color (but that could be a ligthening matter) i'm shure somone more familiar with vintage daytonas can find more ho i olmost forget. Still very nice for a rep ...wich is after all ...a rep.

@finepics thanks for the answare .. A white dial could really be better then nothing ... you are talking of earlier version, without recessed subdial, and not in pure white ? As the movement is nicely working since august i think i got lucky with my asian 7750... The case is still looking good so it would be too bad to put the whole thing as "spare parts". I was going to order several new reps ... i'll try first to see if the dealer cans source a spare dial. (i olso really like the 196 better over the 188) but if i can't find anything i'll be glad to buy your's ... now i know i am not totally deseparate

I SCRATCHED MY 196 DIAL !!!! The worst is what hapened when i tried to fix the scratch with mat paint It was horible, i had to remove the paint making more scratch ... It's totaly [censored]ed up now. Somone got a spare off a broken movement or somthing ? (7750 dial) The watch is really useless as it is. So wether i find a dial or i just put the whole watch as spare parts & buy a new one ... (no,no i didn't needed a good reason to switch to the 7753 i promise, and my walet doesn't agree neither)