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I've had 3 items sized and opened by italian customs even if they were shipped registered airmail. 1 Joshua watch, sent back to him by customs, it was tagged as "not allowed". 1 noobmariner, they opened it and asked the fees as if it was genuine. They still have my noob. 1 ETA spare movement, it was opened and fees paid. It was labeled as "personal gift" On the other hand, Joshua sent me another one, writing "watch gift" on a box full of chinese writings, and It came safetly. Never, never, never use the word "gift" anymore if you're shipping to Italy or stricht countries, to their eyes it means that you don't want to pay duties. It's better to put a value of 30$. You won't pay anything.

maybe rollie? ;-)

I don't think Neil could make you pay for a PP Nautilus $78.00

I guess his pic was taken too close to the watch so the rehaut looks warped and therefore conical. The bezel assembly is a good point. I wonder if it accepts gen parts without heavy mods. CN versions are always been more accurate on the details, on the other hand MBW has better global quality and case. So the wrong rehaut engraving in not a surprise. BTW let's wait for some better pictures.

Contact River, he has it. It is ETA 2836-2 powered, really nice. Josh "perfect sub" should be a TW best case too..

Go for a classick stick or roman hour markers model, it's a pretty good rep and the dial is small and difficult to spot. The second one is not so accurate, circles on the dial are deeper on the gen, as well as hour markers.

Old WM9's subs are Noobmariner (eta powered). Now they sell Z-Series Submariner, and it's definetly another watch

Swap also the noob caseback.

He can source the 1:1 case, he's not actually selling the whole watch.

Watcher, the RWG guinea pig received the first WM9 Z-series 3 months ago. Other members (also me) received it later. Maybe other months will pass before our dealers will get it.. and Angus told me that at the moment he can't get it. He has the 1:1 Yachtmaster case instead. I think WM9's factory is in Taiwan. If anybody want to buy it now, being conscious that it is overpriced, why not.. If you were the only one who can source a 1:1 Sub (not an updated sub), would you really sell it at a fair price? Nobody remembers that TTK lowered the prices of MBWs when everybody else was selling it at 450$ or more.

The old WM9 models are the same rep of our dealers. Their 'VIP' Daytona is the same asian watch, and last year WM9 was selling the Noobmariner (ETA Powered) The 2007 Z-Serial submariner is definetly another watch, the first 1:1 The only scam is the price, but he's the only one who can source it at the moment. That's why we hope that our collectors could get their hands on it soon. The customers complaining about the bezel insert are talking about old reps, z-serial has been released a few months ago, so you cannot find many posts about it.

If you're looking for someone who actually bought a WM9 Sub, 3-4 reviews of WM9 can be foud here on RWG of SS and TT Z-series Sub EDIT: same link posted by rosnik And I own it too.. Just my two cents..

A Noobmariner is the best value for money, and you can also find the same case with ETA movement inside.

Which newer MBW/MBK Models come with correct hollow mid link bracelets?

TTK sells SS MBW modern sub at 350$. Josh's perferct sub is a TW best case. I think that WM9 is scam if you consider scam the most common lies told by dealers ("Perfect" watch with a "Synthetic Sapphire", "swiss trained watchmakers", "full serviced before shipping" etc..) or the overpricing of what you get.

Ask rep-craze if he can find one, or ask our dealers, Angus, Joshua Andrew.. http://www.replica-watch.info/phpBB3/viewt...=310061#p310061 Cheers

Andrews ULTIMATE sub is 488$, I don't really think it's worth for a dropshipper. WM9 is 499$, and it's far away from other subs.. For sure they are both overpriced.. So go for a MBW if you want the best price/quality balance or for a BKmariner

WM9 is has the gen bezel, rehaut ,tube and crown construction. The chance to replace almost all the parts with gens is amazing. I own both MBW and WM9 sub, and in my opinion nothing is comparable to WM9 case.. But it has big flaws "out of the box" too. Neither WM9 nor MBW worth their price if you don't mind to mod it.

Probably it's the best "out of the box" replica around, the only big flaw are the lugholes placed too close of the case edges. http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=52158

Hi TTK, I guess you already know, please add UK FORWARDING to my status. Thank you!

I bought a silver DJ from Pure Time and 1 from Joshua. They are the same, the dial is really accurate. 1 DJ bought from Precious Time, the blue one in his section. The weight is 5 grams less than my gen DJ. But it comes with a jubilee bracelet, while my gen has an oyster one (2007 new bracelet) Compared to Gen the only big flaw is that they have shorter hour markers, due to ETA shorter cannon pinion maybe. And the seconds hand is a little bit longer. So my suggestion is to go for a classic one, it's pretty accurate.

Hi Neil, Please update my status with UK forwarding, thanks!

Nice frenkens vmena, I like the classic style of rollies, new models are getting too fancy imho

count me in for 1 16610LV noob

The site says they have a Gen dial and DW inside. I agree it looks a scam, looking forward to see some pics..