Pleased to see the response from Mark. I actually think responding to specific comments is helpful. It allows the initial poster to reflect on their comments. Some folks may owe an apology - especially if they have never even met or done things with Mark. Some folks may not. In my case, I stand by my general opinion. I did a couple of projects with him and others. Some were successful and other weren't. That is always the case when embarking on projects. And I believe they were entered into with the best of intentions. In my case I was even okay with the concept of attempting to upgrade a watch or two and the possibility of failure. Well, on that score we both made a mistake. Neither he nor I knew what would be involved.
But here is the rub as long as we are going to go there. I never thought about asking for the money for say a new movement or for the cost of making the other one work or even the upfront payment on the initial labor. IMHO, that is not the game. And I am not asking for it now. Although it has never happened with Ziggy, he and I have done several projects where we knew there was a real chance that the watch could be trashed. But where I did find it surprising is that I willingly took the economic loss on the assumption that Mark had tried his best (true) and was so upset about it that I thought he was done with watches (false). And I know he had actually invested money trying to make things right where he could.
If someone walks away from the watch game as people have in the past so be it. But this is not the case. To the contrary, Mark is now a full fledged gen owning member of Risti having not only bought gens but even having traveled to GTG's if I read that forum correctly. Everyone can conclude what they want. And for the record yes I have long since considered Mark a friend and do have mixed feelings.
In closing, I do hope people have largely resolved whatever issues they have with Mark. And I hope and assume that those who still have issues will PM him directly and he will respond.