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:o is it an ETA movement inside instead of a rolex one ?

3. i did NOT say i decide anything. We just talk. 1. If a dealer claims something i cease to have any right to question it? It is your right to believe anything the dealers say to you, it is also my right to question it. 2. Yes, i read that. Tribal seemed to be confused about how they managed it to fit it. I just followed his thought. Plus, BK, who i trust, said that no copy of that movement exists...however another member, elprimerozen, said that he has a copy of this movement. So do i have the right to be skeptical? Or am i denied this right ? Anyway, excuse me if you think i am being rude. It is mot my intention pugwash

Wow... that complicates things about the WM9 claims that it is a gen ETA movement.. If it is a rep, and a very bad rep movement . . .i dont know.. We have to wait.... What made wm9 to use a different movement in his new sub...? strange, isnt it?

BK you mean the wholesaleoutlet 990 perhaps and not 999 ? I am modding my Euromariner.... It is not cheaper than Clark's .. Does it have the same quality? Clarity , glare etc ? ? Thank you for your help!

you could send only the dial , i guess it could be safer.. However i wonder whether the complete disassembly of the watch is an easy thing...

Thank you my friend... No, you can't go wrong i think, no need to worry if you break something, the process is easy. Just put the new crystal with gasket. Then, assemble the bezel-insert ..and press. The final click that shows everything were put together fine proves to be a very relieving sound The crystal swap is a very easy thing, however the bezel assembly may need a few time to try to put together.

That no markers dial is georgeous!!

Omg ..this is a monster... Wear it in good health!

I have to admit that the recessed insert thing was an inspiration by BKs posts in RepGeek over his BKmariner. Well, BK, i actually used the WM9/PT Sub for this project.. maybe the pics are showing the crystal too high... I have to say one more thing from this experience: When i received the watch i was really disappointed about the feel of the bezel. The feel while turning it was s**ty... There were two very stiff points and the rest was very very flimsy (excuse my english). That , i thought , would not be forgiven for a modded watch... But the "miracle" happened : When i disassemble and then put all things together (the retaining rings and that strange spring under the bezel that gives that tick) everything changed! The fell while turning of the bezel is exactly like gen Solid, clearly 120 ticks... That is my advice then: Even if you dont fell like hard modding.. try to disassemble and assemble the watch back ... As i said before no dealer will care about your watch more than you. You have to be (if possible) the QC-Man of the watch..

Lol Thanx my friend... But since i am greek and located in Greece... i preferred to use a .."mediterranean cuisine bracelet method" than use a synthetic machine oil ...

No, i dont. I decided not to put any pics of that procedure as this has been covered by the pinned touroial/pictorial. The use of a blade etc.... The reinstallation of the crystal was as simple as anyone can imagine... Put the things together and press it with the crystal press. My "knowledge contribution" imo was the recommendation of the use of crystal press

Hello my friends! This is a very happy moment of me as i can finally present to the community my 1st modding project. One year and a half i couldnt even dream that i could do such a thing... I was wandering around sites like bluefakes (thank god i didnot send any money , i would be disappointed forever). Then, i had discovered RWI and i was amazed about how people formed a community about reps, then i discovered RWG and the rest is history... The known history for lots of people here: 1st ordered a Noobmariner form TTK as i wanted the "best out of the box economy" sub and then some other buys till i decided to buy a Euromariner to mod! I was unlucky with my Euromariner with the bezel construction but i am happy that my topic over it helped me and more people to identify the wrong crystal gasket thing and Chris now is working on a new version with Clarks crystal. Chris offered me to send a new disassembled bezel, but as this took long ( Chris had been very busy lately) and i was very curious about the whole WM9 thing i ordered o WM9 sub from PT. Transaction run very smoothly... I followed this excellent tutorial http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=65712 and some BK advices over Reppeek mostly and i ordered some parts: Case Back Opener: The Dice is a GEN 29,5 Bergeon replacement dice but the "hand" is not a Bergeon. That reduced me the cost very much: I did not have to buy the whole Bergeon pack AND i did not use this cheap dices that can cause damage to your caseback teeth. I strongly recommend this combination Bergeon Dust Remover: Well, cheaper ones are found in the market but the price was not that high...You dont have to buy a Bergeon one but you HAVE to buy one to use after the CGs trimming and to clean up any dust on the dial before putting all things back together Crystal Press: A very cheap one ... VERY useful, you MUST buy one... It may be possible that you will assemble and disassemble quite a lot of times the watch till it is ready... That press will make it easier... And will "close" the watch firmly Bergeon Silicone Grease: I am not going to use a diving watch (even it is a rep) just to show it around... i wanted to use is underwater as well.... Diving!! Not just swimming.. (and i did ... I will open a thread over it in the next days..) So, one of my purposes for this tiring procedure was not only to make the watch look like gen but to assure waterproofness!!! Yes, i know, Chris offers a great QC, WM9 George re-seals the watches with silicone grease but none will care about your watch more than you imo... So , you have to take it on your own .. Well thats what i did.. Crystal & insert: Well The "usual suspects" to mod a sub Tons of info have been written over these... i cannot add more.. I have to add that the aftermarket crystal has a superb glare and a lovely clarity you will see on the pics... Our dealers promises sapphires... but some aftermarket crystals remind you that there are many different qualities of sapphires... I bought the above to make the bracelet look a bit more "white" than the typical 316 steel, approaching the 904... I think i made it... Look at the black stains after use...It did a good job.. And finally.... the ultra super perfect ultimate supreme "tool": Greek Olive Oil I dipped the bracelet in it for one day... The feel was much much better after that... It got that gen buttery feel... And it reduced the rattling.. Of course i bought different kinds of sandpaper but the one coded "200 grid" was the most useful imo for the CGs and the insert... The insert? Oh yes... you have to trim the back of the insert so it sits nicely inside the bezel... The tutorial i read suggested to make few moves but i realised that i had to trim the insert for few minutes... You decide.. Trial & Error During this procedure, the WM pearl separated and i had to glue it... As you may notice in the pics... i did not manage to glue it correctly , i will do it soon, a very easy thing although you have to be very careful with the glue.. And now the PICS !!!! not AR yet for RLX..? nevermind...We tend to love that glare... Look at the dent of the Crystal and the clarity of it despite no AR! I am open to comments! I want to thank all RWG supporters and Plat members for giving me adice on it, Ubi, Tribal, blue_sphere, BK , and more... sorry not to mention some... PS: Yes, i know i have to re-glue the pearl PS2: Watch out for an upcoming topic with diving pictures..... and my sub of course..

Wow ... what a list for a newbie! The entry level of this forum is going higher & higher... Welcome here my friend! Try the search button but i totally agree with member blue_sphere . You dont have to bother with gen hands as the existing ones are great. I would recommend using a sandpaper for the crown guards... It is safer and at least it worked for me... (My topic is coming soon . . ) modding

I hope my pics will help you... They are supposed to be part of my mod review coming net few hours on the forum Left: Clarcks Crystal packet, Right: WM insert The Crystal after being installed... Look at the nice "dent" and the improved rehaut looking

Yes, it may be as simpe as just putting all the thing together (disassemble and assemble again..) . It happened to me with my WM9 Bezel

The clasp of WM9 is way better than the noob's one.. imo

Contact Chris! He may be able to help you with info or parts to be bought!

Good work BK ... Look forward you inform us more about the project . . .

it looks good.... No way to source honpo watches ?:S

SSUBA Diving !

wtf was motorola thinking to design this one??

Welcome! Which is the watch you cant afford although you have been in love with? Check the relevant section, read , read again and again hundreds of posts and we are here to reply to any quiestin you have!

Sorry, i didnt mean to sound like that either.. Well, the gasket+crystal will be a superb improvement for the Euromariner.. About the dial & bracelet i am not optimistic at all.... The fact that we still rely on a 100 $ watch (noobmariner) parts (dial and bracelet- however i hate noob bracelet) to build our super frankens of 1000 $ says a lot...

intriguing... Who will be the pioneer to order and update us?