djnugget Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 hi how does this compare to the quality of the MBW secs@9 version? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bike Mike Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 hi how does this compare to the quality of the MBW secs@9 version? thanks In what way? AP ROO Gen's have seconds that run @12 with the subdial slightly closer to center then the other sub dials. The same issue will exist with the crown and pushers being aligned to one another. The Gens crown is offset lower to the pushers. The secs @9 movement will be more reliable (as well as a dead give away to being fake) as moving the seconds to 12 puts additional strain on the movement that eventually causes it to fail requiring service. Use the search function, there is a lot of great info around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djnugget Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 sorry, to be more specific. how does the case and bracelet quality of the MBW secs@9 comapre to this secs@12. is one higher quality? does the MBW have the gen like feel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thogaa Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Ordered one of these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Can't wait to get one myself, I have the quartz but really want the secs at 12 now I know it fits and wears well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotch Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Many thanks for the review! Both watches look awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cngys Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 I've had the Black Themes w rubber strap Sec@12 for 6 months already and agree it is very well made and rather close to the gen, despite differences in a few areas. However, after looking at Sander's post on his Holy Grail!, now that is really something CLOSE to gen:-) imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiffanyw02 Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 with comparison，they're very different. Good job! I deeply agree with the suggestion that we could make additional forum especially for Rep-Gen comparison threads with pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clinterik Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Great Thread... A real joy to read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoFaster Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 The Real difference is Movement ! One is very good and the other not really... :-( And a friend has a gen Off Shore and the Screws on the bezel are really better on the Real and the feeling not really same I found... The Thick, but you told that But if you are not an expert, really hard to tell the difference Ah yes a last point, the noise of movement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtremerz Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 not bad not bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPN Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 What an excellent and informative thread. I'm glad it's a sticky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolwatchdude Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 glad i decided to browse through. this is very informative. now, if someone can do this with a Safari, it'd be even more happy. otherwise, i will succumb to picking up a black themes. lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzrr Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Great Review, great watch!! who sells such goodies? i'm new in rwg, but i'm looking for a really good AP chrono rep for a long time.. accurate in every detail.. movement should be ETA, sellita or comparable, watch should be water resistant, scratchproof etc. i have read that king watches is able to supply ap roo with the correct pusher shape.. is conny the best for buying a ap roo? which dealer do you prefer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzrr Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Great Review, great watch!! who sells such goodies? i'm new in rwg, but i'm looking for a really good AP chrono rep for a long time.. accurate in every detail.. movement should be ETA, sellita or comparable, watch should be water resistant, scratchproof etc. A Rubberclad with back dial seems to be a good start with AP. i have read that king watches is able to supply ap roo with the correct pusher shape.. is conny the best for buying a ap roo? which dealer do you prefer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nautilus.nemo Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Thanks for the comparison I don't know APs enough to spot the flaws, so I'll just say that they look pretty much spot on to me, and could well encourage me to add an AP to my wishlist +1 Many thanks! Very good job! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanView Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 I'm looking into this watch as well. Is this the same one from Angus? http://www.puretime.co/product/royal-oak-offshore-ultimate-chronopassion-v4-on-rubber-strap/ or is there a better one out there? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgematic1 Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 I'm looking into this watch as well. Is this the same one from Angus? http://www.puretime....n-rubber-strap/ or is there a better one out there? Thanks The one you mention is the Royal Oak Offshore Chronopassion V4, if you want the Chronopassion I advice you to take the V5 http://www.puretime.co/product/royal-oak-offshore-ultimate-chronopassion-v5-grey-dial-on-black-rubber-strap-a7750/ but beware, the Chronopassion is a Titanium watch with bead blasted finish. It gets easily scratched and you can't get the scratches out because it's bead blasted. If you want the watch that is in this review then you need the Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Offshore Black Themes, which is this one: http://www.puretime.co/product/royal-oak-offshore-ultimate-edition-black-dial-on-bracelet-a7750/ You need to ask for the rubber band if you prefer that. I would advice not to go with the rep leather band as it is not of good quality. Also ask for the latest ultimate version with AR'ed cyclopse and updated datewheel. Good luck! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanView Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Thanks for the info edgematic! Is the rubber the same as the one on the new diver v3? Also, how is the steel REP bracelet? I was thinking about getting both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerthat Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 The rubber band on the V3 Diver is brand new, the holes are larger to accomadate the larger buckle on the diver, so no it is not the same strap. The steel bracelet is great quality for a rep bracelet, but in my opinion it still feels like a rep bracelet, compared to the watch itself I don't think it is of the same quality. The gen bracelet I believe is a $3000 option so it is tough to match the quality with the sub $100 rep bracelet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgematic1 Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Well, imo the rep is a great bracelet compared to the gen... Gen is gen and differences are there but I would say that if you need a bracelet and you want it then go for it. I don't think the V3 diver straps are already available separately, I would like to get an extra strap as well. If you don't care if the strap is close to the gen, then buy a Diver V2 rubber strap, but I'm not a fan of them since they are plain wrong. Otherwise you should get the regular rubber strap with the clasp. Difference between gen and rep is that the gen is stiffer and a tiny tiny bit thicker (probably not even a mm). The clasp has holes on the side which the gen hasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerthat Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Strange you dislike the roo rubber for tiny differences yet like the rep bracelet Hand the rubber to a gen owner and they likely would not suspect anything Hand them the bracelet and they would suspect something is not right The rubber rep straps may have differences bit are similar quality To me the bracelet is inferior quality to the gen IMO No offense meant, I appreciate all of your dedication to the ap reps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgematic1 Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Yes, I agree on the inferior quality and on the feel. Yet it still is a great bracelet imo. I just wanted to say that if he wants a bracelet he should get it because the quality is great. Especially if you never had a gen in your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerthat Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Makes sense I agree with you if you like the bracelet look better than go for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laergan Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 I've just joined this forum after finding out about it this month, and am loving all of the AP reps out there. This one's great, and I have my heart set out for an AP Diver as my first! Great comparison, it makes me want an AP even more.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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