Toadtorrent Posted September 28, 2009 Report Posted September 28, 2009 Andrew's got some new pieces listed. Solid Ti cases with engraved bridges and Swan Neck Regulators. Nice!! I couldn't tell you how accurate the dials are...but hey...for $178??
hackR Posted September 28, 2009 Report Posted September 28, 2009 nice find, S!... looks decent enough for the price...how much are they usually?! R-
Toadtorrent Posted September 28, 2009 Author Report Posted September 28, 2009 I have no idea how much these are. It seems the SS 111's without the PANERAI PANERAI PANERAI bridges and without the swan neck are about this price...so with the better movement and in Ti it seemed not too bad.
lanikai Posted September 28, 2009 Report Posted September 28, 2009 I got mine a couple of years ago .. they were around the same price but do these have eta's ?? L
Toadtorrent Posted September 28, 2009 Author Report Posted September 28, 2009 Not as far as I know. Asian hand winds with Swan Neck. I was under the impression that the swan neck wasn't showing up as much in the PAM's these days...maybe I was wrong.
lanikai Posted September 28, 2009 Report Posted September 28, 2009 swan necks were visible about 2 years ago me thinks.. did they take a hiatus recently ??
Toadtorrent Posted September 28, 2009 Author Report Posted September 28, 2009 I was reading some threads awhile back that they weren't around as much. Whether or not this was true, it appears to not be the case. Either way, Angus seems to have the same watch for a $120 premium!!
Rolexman Posted September 28, 2009 Report Posted September 28, 2009 It not genuine Titanium. I have one. It's some sort of grey steel alloy. It's as heavy as the SS version.
hackR Posted September 28, 2009 Report Posted September 28, 2009 does anyone know if the rep lume on the g dial (sausage) is as weak as the rep lume on the h dial (sandwich)...i haven't seen a standard rep sausage dial, but i've seen a rep sandwich dial... i agree this is a nice price...just wondering if the sausage dial is decent in lume and overall quality...any first hand advice is appreciated...having a bear searching this info out here with the new search... R-
hackR Posted September 28, 2009 Report Posted September 28, 2009 @Rman--> do you have any pix of an actual one?...do you have g or h series?...thx...R
lanikai Posted September 28, 2009 Report Posted September 28, 2009 @Rman--> do you have any pix of an actual one?...do you have g or h series?...thx...R let me see if I can get some pics for you R .. I have the black dial and brown tobacco dial both sausage and I also have the H series .. I had one of the G-relumed .. the lume is rather weak on the stock item.. AC L
hackR Posted September 28, 2009 Report Posted September 28, 2009 @Lani -- thanks!... my thinking is with this low a base cost for a new one, adding lume and other mods makes this attractive overall... interesting, tho, that Rolexman says its a heavy titantium look alloy and not the usual lightweight full titanium?!...a bummer...
hackR Posted September 29, 2009 Report Posted September 29, 2009 Lani was kind enough to post some pix of sausage and sandwich dials for comparison... Lani's post of 177 and 036 pix!...
Drulee Posted September 29, 2009 Report Posted September 29, 2009 As far as swan necks, they are very common on all the latest 6497 reps, especially display back ones. I saw these latest ti offerings, but have heard so many members on RG say that the ti cases in the past year have been terrible. Of course I've been unable to find out what they mean by terrible, except for the JacksonTse ones (not deep enough for regular dials and movements).
hackR Posted September 29, 2009 Report Posted September 29, 2009 i sent an email to andrew and josh regarding what the case of these models was REALLY made of: Josh: "yes.. Its titanium." Andrew: "It is 100% titanium and not alloy or SS. money back if it's not titanium. It is significantly lighter than SS. thanks" R-
Rolexman Posted September 29, 2009 Report Posted September 29, 2009 I bought this one: Notice how Josh writes: '1 piece forged case construction, solid Titanium' edit This are actual pics of it I made myself before I sold it: And it is NOT genuine Titanium (or at least not 100% titanium). Maybe it is lighter than SS but the difference would be so small I didn't notice it. It's some sort of grey steel alloy. It's a very very nice and accurate rep none the less It could very well be the latest release of the twins is in fact genuime titanium but I doubt it at that price which is simular to the one I bought.
Drulee Posted September 29, 2009 Report Posted September 29, 2009 I was going to remark, in a sarcastic tone, that if they've emailed that it's ti, then it must be I've had one of these cases and there is very little difference in weight from the SS ones. However a cheap JacksonTse ti case seems to have half the weight of its SS counterpart. Too bad it has other deficiencies. Thanks for posting the pics, by the way.
hackR Posted September 29, 2009 Report Posted September 29, 2009 wow...nice pix... and you're right -- its a nice piece regardless of its case content - especially for the price...kinda frustrating to deal with this "yes, it is", "no, it isn't" debate on the case -- wish the dealers would call it right?!... curious -- of the twins, i am leaning heavily toward the g - like yours above...how is the lume on this beast?...did you take a lume shot?...i assume the dial and the hands are lumed?...does the lume between the dial and hands match?... THANKS...R
hackR Posted September 29, 2009 Report Posted September 29, 2009 @Dru -- that's why i posted the emoticon... we all know this all too well... i still think - even with the "flaws" and "case-comotion" - it's a nice piece for the $s... R-
Toadtorrent Posted September 29, 2009 Author Report Posted September 29, 2009 I agree...it is a nice piece...the debate for me, is, "is it the NEXT piece??".
Drulee Posted September 30, 2009 Report Posted September 30, 2009 @Dru -- that's why i posted the emoticon... we all know this all too well... i still think - even with the "flaws" and "case-comotion" - it's a nice piece for the $s... R- Ah, I'm sort of in schizophrenic mode going from this site to another. If I say something negative about the cartel in the other, it is usually more trouble than it is worth. And yes, at least they're being reasonable with their pricing on this.
Rolexman Posted September 30, 2009 Report Posted September 30, 2009 The version I had had the best rep lume ever. Everything glowed nice and even and it burned up like a torch if you walked from outside into the house! Off course after a minute or two the glow was gone... I didn't take a picture as they aren't representative anyway because of iso and shutter time anomaly. Take my word
swdivad Posted September 30, 2009 Report Posted September 30, 2009 The watch Rolexman posted looks like a completely different animal from the pics off J&A's sites... Just look at the crown... That's a let down for me
hackR Posted September 30, 2009 Report Posted September 30, 2009 i agree swd on the crown and other assorted details... the dealers had a "ultimate" version that sells for $280usd - give or take...i think that is the version in R'man's pix... R-
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