lanikai Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 This is not the most accurate dial.. better than most..I want to get a gilt dial project going ... but my main concern is the finish.. was the 5513 made with a glossy finish ?? also, are the hands silver and not gold ?? thank you in advance.. AC Lani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Lani - The 1st runs of 5513s had gloss/gilt dials until the early-60s or so. However, I have only seen these with the depth line above the Submariner line I will have to check my hard drive archives to see if I can any find exceptions to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted October 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Lani - I believe the 1st runs of 5513s had gloss/gilt dials until the mid-60s or so. However, I have only seen these with the depth line above the Submariner line. I will have to check my hard drive archives to see if I can any find exceptions to be sure. thank you .. appreciate it freddy.. I thought the hands were gilt also.. those I will have to order from MKII if they are.. thanks again.. Lani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 I went through my 5513 pic archives & they are all variations on the same theme. But here are a few more pics that may help (I think they all had gilt hands) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted October 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Thank you very much freddy.. I'll see about getting gilt hands.. possibly from my dealer... so I don't have to wait 2 months,..going with Yuki's dial .. AC Lani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 I've seen gilt dials with gold and silver hands. These are all watches from the early 60's. Of course, I like the gilt hands w/ the gilt dials, but I sometimes woinder if Rolex really cared that much at the time. Of course, by the middle 60's it was all white dials and silver hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demsey Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 No water mark on this photo Freddy. Your piece? Wondering about the re-lume. sometimes woinder if Rolex really cared that much at the time. If ever? Doubt it. silver hands White gold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 I can go one weirder than that, my 6536 is gilt with gold hands but they were painted silver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 When I did the research for mine I concluded gloss dial in Gilt only had depth above Submariner as Freddy mentions. I did see them with either Gilt or Silver (white gold I expect) hands - I prefer the Gilt hands. For Gilt hands: ETA movements - Clarks Tudor hands Gen Movement - Michael Young at CWP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmg Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 R, you'll see both gilt dials with gilt and silver hands but all latter RSC replacements were silver toned hands. I agree everything I've ever seen has depth printed above the model on a gilt glossy dial. I do love the gilt dial and matching hands combo. Sniff sniff, I'm missing my gilt 369 dialed 5513. Granted this NDT dial was not glossy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted October 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Thanks guy's !! I may have to go ND for the proper depth line... mmmm .. these gilt dials have eluded me.. I was looking at the 396 dial also.. mmmm the hunt begins.. AC Lani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Carl Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 I thought that the early subs with explorer type dials in the 55xx series (only two models, I think) had coin edge bezels. I could be wrong in my recollection. Those gens existing today could be real frankens due to Rolex service policies. Does anyone have better information on this? Thanks! Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted October 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 I thought that the early subs with explorer type dials in the 55xx series (only two models, I think) had coin edge bezels. I could be wrong in my recollection. Those gens existing today could be real frankens due to Rolex service policies. Does anyone have better information on this? Thanks! Carl this is from one of James Dowlings historic write ups..the hands look as they may have been replaced though this is suppose to be one of the last 5513 gilt dial Subs by Rolex .. was this what you referring to Carl ?? the first in the Explorer line.. the one that conquered Everest.. .. just "Precision" ... this would be a nice project.. I have a dial from ND.. but not gilt.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 No water mark on this photo Freddy. Your piece? Wondering about the re-lume. I only watermark my pics. That (gen) piece belongs to 1 of the TZ elders. I can go one weirder than that, my 6536 is gilt with gold hands but they were painted silver. During the 50s, Rolex had a habit of painting the seconds hand on alot of their sports models white. I have lots of pics of early GMTs & Subs with gilt/gold minute/hour hands & a white seconds hand I had planned to use a white hand on my 6536/1 But, in the end, I did not think it would go through my enhanced patination process (oven) & come out still white at the other end. Sniff sniff, I'm missing my gilt 369 dialed 5513. Granted this NDT dial was not glossy. Mores the pity since you could have fitted that beauty with a realistic rivet bracelet, now that they are readily available (albeit only with narrow springbars). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 I thought that the early subs with explorer type dials in the 55xx series (only two models, I think) had coin edge bezels. Does anyone have better information on this? I believe only the CG-less Subs had coin edge bezels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 I like the gilt dials but it seems all of the reps I've seen using one have been two-tone. I plan on modifying one of my cheap Subs as soon as I get the gold hands in. This will be a "modern" one using this dial: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 During the 50s, Rolex had a habit of painting the seconds hand on alot of their sports models white. I have lots of pics of early GMTs & Subs with gilt/gold minute/hour hands & a white seconds hand Ahhh, yes that's true. The weird part in my case is, all 3 hands were painted silver. I had Ziggy take the paint off my minutes and hours hands, and leave the seconds hand silver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 There is a pretty nice redial Tudor variant on VRF right now http://www.network54.com/Forum/207673/message/1255986698/Tudor+7928+dial+(+redone+) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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