Replica Knives

[gte217e]

Hi. I was wondering if anyone here knows where I can get the replica knives (particularly the Microtech replica knives) listed on the website www.dao188.com

The knives I am most interested in are models #1175 & #1202.

I translated the order page and found that it does not ship to the US.

Any help would be appreciated. Also if there are replica watch stores oversees that can access those replica knives and ship to the US I would be very grateful.

Thank you.

[Demsey]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away..............

There was a member; 'King Jubilee' who dealt in rep knives, knew his stuff, and was a square shooter. I just looked into his profile to see he hasn't been active in well over a year. Maybe send him a shout in the blind by PM. He might ping back...............................

[Ronin]

I learn something new every day. I was not aware there was a "Luxury" Knife market worthy of replication. Interesting.

[Nanuq]

Yes, a good knife can get very expensive. But a rep knife can be VERY dangerous too, like if its pivot collapses at the wrong time. For safety reasons alone, I always recommend against reps when personal safety is at stake... if you're going to use the things. Shawn got me quite a few genuine SOGs for quite a discount. He can get almost anything you want, rep or gen. Here are some saved threads from him:

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Hey Bob,

Sorry for the delay, I've been occupied with a new job and haven't sold many knives lately.

To get an accurate quote, I really need the model number of the below knives to make sure I am quoting the right knife and color, if applicable. For example there are 3 different models of the Twitch 1 and about 12 models of the Chive. But, I'll take a bit of a guess at what your scout wants.

Sog Twitch 1 retails for $50, my price is $33

Sog Micron retails for $18, my price is $12

Kershawn Chive aluminum retails for $55, my price is $37

I have to place at least a $150 order to be allowed to order from my distributor. Maybe you could get a couple of the guys to order at the same time so everyone saves.

All prices include shipping and postage!

Let me know, pal.

Shawn

Bob wrote:

Hey Shawn, thanks for the reply. Here are the knives my scout is looking at

prices for as comparison:

SOG Twitch 1 (the small one)

SOG Micron 1

Kershaw Chive (Aluminum)

Also I have three Eagle Scout Courts of Honor coming up, so I'll be buying a nice

knife for each of them. I'm sort of leaning toward the SOG Trident with the

resin non-slip handle. I'll check the website and get model numbers so you

can give me some prices.

I still use my SOG knives all the time and the scouts are astounded how they

stay so sharp.

Cheers! -Bob

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From: King Jubilee

Subject: Re: Knife links

Bob,

No problem, here is an email friendly version of links to the brand named

knives. If you get together a bulk order, I will make sure you guys get a

really special deal.

Thanks, Shawn

If you have a particular brand named knife that you want, let me know and

I will see if I can purchase it from one of my suppliers. If available, I

can usually get it to you at least 70% of retail price. This price would

include shipping and delivery confirmation.

A list of just some of the brand named knives I can get for you:

http://www.almarknives.com/ AL MAR

http://www.anzaknives.com/products/collection_series.htm ANZA

http://www.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/bearmgc/ BEAR & SON

http://www.berettausa.com/proshop/category.cfm?Category=88 BERETTA

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=BOKER+KNIVES BOKER

http://www.buckknives.com/ BUCK

http://www.camillusknives.com/ CAMILLUS

http://www.wrcase.com/index2.php CASE

http://www.coldsteel.com/ COLD STEEL

http://www.crkt.com/ COLUMBIA RIVER

http://www.emersonknives.com/Tact_index.html EMERSON

http://www.ennis-entrekusa.com/ ENTREK

http://www.fallkniven.com/ FALLKNIVEN

http://www.gerberstore.com/ GERBER

http://www.zwilling.com/country/us/language/en/locales HENCKELS

https://www.kabar.com/index.jsp KA-BAR

http://www.kershawknives.com/large.htm KERSHAW

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=MARBLES+KNIVES MARBLES

http://www.microtechknives.com/ MICROTECH

http://www.myerchin.com/ MYERCHIN

http://www.ontarioknife.com/ ONTARIO

http://www.pumaknives.de/ PUMA

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=SMITH+AND+WESSON+KNIVES SMITH & WESSON

http://www.sogknives.com/ SOG

http://spyderco.com/ SPYDERCO

http://www.topsknives.com/ TOPS

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=UZI+KNIVES UZI

http://www.victorinox.ch/newsite/en/produkte/index.htm VICTORINOX

http://williamhenryknives.com/ WILLIAM HENRY

http://www.wenger-knife.ch/ WENGER

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His email address: king_jubilee@yahoo.com

[Ronin]

Great info! Thanks.

[fakemaster]

But a rep knife can be VERY dangerous too, like if its pivot collapses at the wrong time. For safety reasons alone, I always recommend against reps when personal safety is at stake...

+100

[bwhitesox]

Always spot on advice Nanuq and I couldn't agree more about rep knives.

If it's just to peg on the wall next to the moose head then no problem but if you are actually going to use this then buy a gen.

[gte217e]

You'd be surprised just how well done these rep knives are. The same way there are genuine watches, fake watches, and replica watches... the same thing happens with knives.

I have several genuine knives from Microtech, I have one fake knife from 'mikrotrek', and I have a replica from Microtech.

The difference between the replica and the genuine is the type of steel used in the blade. The replica uses 440c (typical steel on every knife out there included sog and kershaw unless it is a specialty knife), while the gen uses S330v which is a specialty steel.

Further, the handles are both made of aluminum but one is anodized aluminum and the replica is painted.

For these out the front automatics, the internals are exactly the same after I opened up both the gen and replica.

You can't USE an out the front automatic knife whether it's a genuine or a replica. They are just not made for that. So it is not such a good idea to spend 400+ dollars on a knife that you have no intention of collecting.

Also... I have a dealer account with several knife distributors so I do get discounts of 50% or so off retail but thanks for pointing me in that direction. Though as of now I'm very much interested in the replicas (which is why I'm here).

This is just for fun, I don't plan on stabbing anyone or using the knives as a tool. I have other knives and guns for that. My guns are genuine though.

[Roby944]

yes guns are better

You'd be surprised just how well done these rep knives are. The same way there are genuine watches, fake watches, and replica watches... the same thing happens with knives.

I have several genuine knives from Microtech, I have one fake knife from 'mikrotrek', and I have a replica from Microtech.

The difference between the replica and the genuine is the type of steel used in the blade. The replica uses 440c (typical steel on every knife out there included sog and kershaw unless it is a specialty knife), while the gen uses S330v which is a specialty steel.

Further, the handles are both made of aluminum but one is anodized aluminum and the replica is painted.

For these out the front automatics, the internals are exactly the same after I opened up both the gen and replica.

You can't USE an out the front automatic knife whether it's a genuine or a replica. They are just not made for that. So it is not such a good idea to spend 400+ dollars on a knife that you have no intention of collecting.

Also... I have a dealer account with several knife distributors so I do get discounts of 50% or so off retail but thanks for pointing me in that direction. Though as of now I'm very much interested in the replicas (which is why I'm here).

This is just for fun, I don't plan on stabbing anyone or using the knives as a tool. I have other knives and guns for that. My guns are genuine though.

Edited October 28, 2009 by Roby944

[jdkno]

I am with Nanuq on this one. While a rep knife disected may appear 100% true to the gen the grade of steel and manufacturing process is what I would call into question. For example if the rep uses an inferior steel as one of the main pivot pins or as part of the locking mechanism. The parts may look and function just like the gen but if they fail its going to hurt. While a rep dealer may say their knife is made using 440C, have we not learned anything from our swiss vs Asain clone debacle? Without an independant lab test on the rep steel I would not trust my fingers to the claim of using 440 steel.

You can't USE an out the front automatic knife whether it's a genuine or a replica. They are just not made for that. So it is not such a good idea to spend 400+ dollars on a knife that you have no intention of collecting.

Could you please offer some insite as to why an OTF can't be used? I have carried one every day over the last 10 years or so and have subjected them to some pretty hard use and they still work, a quick strope(2-3 strokes)once every other week keeps them razor sharp as well.

[Nanuq]

Great information! Let's keep it going. In case anyone's interested here's a table of common steels used in the knife industry.

[Demsey]

It seems a lot of concern is for folding and locking blades. I would imagine a good three rivet 'through handle' utility knife, as a fillet knife, or skinning knife would be a good bet. Lord knows I've had enough 'production' blades come apart. So..........

[P4GTR]

Some of the nicest knives around imo don't cost much more than a good rep. I stay away from cheap cutlery. You get what you pay for in that arena. Why waste the money when good ones aren't too expensive?

I'm a huge spyderco fan. I've got two of the most desired pieces, and i'm no rich man.

Spyderco carbon fiber Military, BG steel ~$200

Spyderco Bob Lum folding tanto ~$200

[Nanuq]

Mmmmmm, Spyderco...

You're right, Dems, it's the folders that will come apart when they get old or if they're not well made. Those are the ones that will cut your fingers off. In my mind a folder and a fixed blade have different purposes and lifespans.

For fixed blade, you can't do better than Helle:

[gte217e]

I've never had a folding knife fail on me. And that includes a $3.50 lockback with plastic handles. I HAVE, however, had an out the front knife fail to fire and fail to lock up. And that was my brand new Microtech Daytona with red handles and carbon fiber scales (not a cheap knife at around $300 retail). This is what I mean about not being able to use an out the front knife. I currently use a Microtech UTX (retail value around $200) as my keychain / box cutter / letter opener. Personally... i would have rather purchased a $40 replica of the same knife for that purpose. But I'm a sucker for out the fronts as you can see in the picture.

[Dani]

ahh knives one of my passions.

To bad autos and balisongs are illegal in my country.

I have many benchmade balis also a protech goodfather stored in a safe place

Microtech knifes are the dream but to risk 500$ knife in customs and a 1000$ find is no way ho say.

[gte217e]

Since my original post in 2009 I have since moved on to authentic and genuine products and have been a Microtech dealer for 9 years.  One thing I have to say about replicas (both watches and knives) is that it was a cheap way to get me excited about the hobby and now I only own genuine watches (rolex, AP, Hublot) and knives (mostly Microtech).  So it is a weird and conflicting feeling; I may not have ever pursued the genuine products if I hadn't purchased replicas first, but I also see that the existence of replicas can hurt the industry (especially when people try to sell them as genuine products to unsuspecting victims).  Double edged sword for sure.

[Nanuq]

I've got several MicroTech knives and I've never had one fail to fire and lock up. I've bought several rep Benchmade Infidels and once or twice they'd fail but a couple drops of Teflon Triflow lubed them enough that now they work exactly like the gen.