vlydog Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 Greetings RWG, I am in the "hunting and gathering" stage of my first franken project for 2010; I have a good start. My request is for the forum sages to look at my parts list and tell me what I may have left out. Gen Parts: 1570/1575 movement Dial Hands Crown Crown tube Bezel Bezel insert Silver date-wheel Top-hat cyclops I will be using a Yuki case; me thinks. Anything missing? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bk9111 Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 2mm springbars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 Gen bracelet 7206/80 9315/280 9315/380 93150/580 Considering the cost of the individual gen parts, you ought to include a gen 1680 in your hunting/gathering. For not much more than you are already spending to build a franken, you would end up with something that has alot more value. That is what I would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cats Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 That's exactly the point. At which point do you stop investing money in a Franken project ?? Never the less a nice project and keep us posted vlydog Carpe Diem Cats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlydog Posted November 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 Thanks bk9111, freddy and Cats for your input. Now maybe a more accurate question: In terms of the more minor parts such as crystal retaining ring, gaskets, friction washer, etc; would I be able to use these parts from the rep case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatchaman Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 At which point do you stop investing money in a Franken project ?? Rule of thumb for me: If the franken is around 2/3rds of the gen's cost, then buy the gen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 In terms of the more minor parts such as crystal retaining ring, gaskets, friction washer, etc; would I be able to use these parts from the rep case? If the case was made to exact Rolex dimensions (like NDtrading, Yuki, etc), then they ought to fit. But most rep cases are nowhere that exact. In fact, most rep cases appear to be 'ballparked', at best. My guess is that things like retaining rings probably will not fit. But I have been (pleasantly) surprised on more than 1 occasion, so it is always worth a try to find out. Keep in mind that the gaskets used in rep watches are usually the lowest quality, so, even if they do fit, I would replace them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlydog Posted November 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 I will be using a Yuki case; me thinks. Would it best to find gen or would the Clark's gaskets, washers, etc be sufficient quality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchguy07 Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 Also, make sure the silver date wheel has flat tops on the 3's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlydog Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Another question: Bought a nice Vintage 60's ROLEX OYSTER PERPETUAL DATE Ref 1500 on the bay. I plan on using the movement for my 1680 franken project. Will I need spacer rings or additional parts to have it dropped in my Yuki case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justasgood Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Another question: Bought a nice Vintage 60's ROLEX OYSTER PERPETUAL DATE Ref 1500 on the bay. I plan on using the movement for my 1680 franken project. Will I need spacer rings or additional parts to have it dropped in my Yuki case? You shouldn't need anything other than the rolex Movement screws that you actually reverse to hold the movement in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlydog Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Thanks K! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 @vlydog, looks like we have sister projects going. I got my start buying the majority of gen parts off of Yachtmaster: Lets stay connected. Here is my parts list, what I have: Gen Dial Gen Insert Gen Crown & Tube Gen 1575 Movement Silver/Flat 3 Gen Crystal Yuki Case (old version, non-glued tube) Needed Parts: Hands Bracelet Springbars Budget: Goal stay below $2000 Currently at: $1800 Most of that $$$ is the Gen 1575. Lets keep in touch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlydog Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Yuki Case (old version, non-glued tube) can you expand on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 From what I understand the new Yuki cases have the crown tubes glued in, instead of, or in addition to threaded. Also, my case appears to fit my 1575 from a pie-pan datejust without modification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 The tubes in the last cases I received from Yuki were glued in, but they were also threaded. So you just have to heat the case (with the crystal & movement removed) with a hair dryer for a bit to soften the glue & then remove the tube in the usual manner. Then tap the threads to clean out the residual glue & you should be all set to install a new/gen tube. Unlike the typical rep, Yuki's cases are made to fit gen movements & dials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick1972 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I'm working on a 1680 myself, yukicase, gen red sub dial, gen hands etc.. The problem is to find the right donor movement for the yukicase, do I have to buy a ref: 1500 or 1603. There was a difference but what is it? Something with the datewheel? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlydog Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 From what I understand the new Yuki cases have the crown tubes glued in, instead of, or in addition to threaded. Also, my case appears to fit my 1575 from a pie-pan datejust without modification. I currently have an order in for a 1680 case from Yuki. After RoninQ's post I sent Yuki an email. This is what he said: Please don't worry. It is very long time ago, because we have been change ThIS supplier. We don't have case with gluing in the crown tube right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlaletom Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 @nick1972. you need any watch that was originaly holding a ref 1575 movement, and that nowaydays have low value. that would be : 1500,1501 1600 1601. the 1503 being gold cased is out of the ligue. you can expet to find a watch head only, with silver ring and flat top 3 for around 600-700 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick1972 Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Are you sure about that? This is what Stilty says on another topic: "Here is a vital part for the 1570 movement for anyone who is planning on building a Franken 1680 or 1665 and using a movement salvaged from a 1601 or 1603 Datejust. If you are using a salvage from a 1500 OP Date, then you will be fine. Why you ask? The date disc seat on the 1570 for DJ is beveled for the pie pan dial, and the diameter is too large to fit in the sport case. You will not be able to fit the movement to the case. The only other fix is to grind down the part in order to fit, or replace with the proper seat. Something to keep in mind if shopping for a 1570 on the bay and you see a seller listing a 1570 from a 1601 and saying it will fit a 1680. It will not fit. I recall The Zigmeister posting this problem a while back while assembling a Franken and he had to grind the seat to the proper diameter in order to fit the case." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bklm1234 Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 You can get silver flat-top 3 dw overlay from Chris at Eurotimez. It think it's $20, 25 each. I got 2 for myself. I have new gen 127 crystals. Forgot how many I have bought over time. Have to look. PM me if you want 1. -bk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bklm1234 Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 anybody knows the part number for the 2mm springbars? thx -bk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 part number FB-7895 from ofrei - $24/dz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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