Ronin Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 A few weeks ago I posted some pics from my bench of my sterile dial homage to the Bond 653x Rolex. Since this is one of a kind, no worries about the finer "Rolex details". The project is complete!!! My first. Scroll through the pics, and at the bottom you will find additional details. Enjoy! I call this my 653.09D. 653 for tribute, 09 for 2009. D for date. (My own homebrew "Kingston" kinda sorta...) Bench / Build Shots: Pearl is WM (Watch Material) Gen Swiss ETA-2836-2 "bubble pack" from Ofrei. Keeping COSC (or close to it) on the winder NOT Photo Shopped. Camera Exposure set to 15seconds f3.3 ISO 80 4.1mm 25mm I lucked out that the hands lume matched the dial. The WM Pearl is a bit softer. Wrist and Fun Shots: w/Bond's Beretta pre-Walther Details-Parts / Sources / Cost: Case - Rolex Rep Case (Silix Style) - originally purchased as complete 6536 rep from member Seafoam - $60Crown / Tube - Sterile Rolex Replacement Crown - Ofrei - $15Pearl - Watch Material WM - $10Insert - from original case/repDial - from Seiko-Citizens trading forum - $15Hands - eWatchparts $15 x 2 = $30ETA Movevment - Ofrei - $13818mm Corvus Bond RAF strap - $40 Project Total - $308.00 Project Hours - 8 (Left over parts include Rolex 6536 Rep Dial, 21J Movement, Rolex Rep Crown/tube)Tips / Tricks / Lessons I learned: Ok. Now for the learn from my mistakes and experience time. In particular order, just some random musings.Hands - Trying to paint "White" over Glit, was a failure for me. So I opted for the silver seconds hand instead to obtain the look. If I were to attempt the white hand-- I would order a red yachtmaster hand for ETA, strip the paint, then paint with airbrush. The other issue in attempting the white hand was then having to relume it since chances are good the lume will get stripped, or paint on it.Hands II - A bad assumption on my part, I figured the hour hand would have a "positive stop" when pressing on. I was wrong, and my first press of the hour hand had it touching the dial. Yikes. LESSON LEARNED: press hour hand while watching closely under the loupe. Stop when you have the desired clearance, or in my case with ETA when the top of the hour hand was flush with the top of the hour wheel pinion. Tools: I simply used my Bergeon Presto Puller and 7404-2 presser. To press the second hand on I recommend Ubi's Dumb-Dumb Sucker stick.Pearl - The rep pearl was crap plastic. A more accurate vintage pearl would not work because it was too small for the hole already in the insert. The WM pearl was too big. TRICK: To fit the WM pearl I used a 3mmx.60 tap to slowly open the hole a bit bigger. Actually, just used the tip of the tap to ream the hole bigger. To prevent loss of the pearl, I also used a small amount of JB Weld Epoxy on the back side.GS Hypo Cement - I used this to glue the insert and crystal. It did the job but I am not sold on it. My weak-link from a water proofing perspective is the crystal to the case.Cutting the Stem - Surprisingly this was easy for me. Only took 2 cuts to get it right. I think the Rolex style screw down made it easier. My shortcut is, TIP: 1.) Screw on crown to uncut stem and insert into cased movement. 2.) Using my caliper I measured the distance from the tube to the start of the threads on the crown. (2.5mm) in my case. 3.) Then I measured how much squish/push the traditional Rolex screw-down crown had. About another 1mm. So I figured I needed to cut 3.5mm off the stem. 4.) Went conservative with my first cut and stuck with 2.5mm. This put the crown threads just touching the tube. Pushing it in would allow it "screw-down", but I was still a bit far away from the case when the crown bottomed on the top of the tube. 5.) Nipped off about .5mm and filed it a little bit. Viola! I used Loctite 290 on the stem to crown for final installation.Bezel - This Bi-Directional Bezel was very stiff with a very metal-on-metal feeling. TRICK: I used a little bit of Vaseline/Petroleum Jelly on the groove the tension wire rides in. Viola, smoother and easier to turn. Future Modifications (maybe):[*]Reseal Crystal to case. Right now it water resistant to about 1 BAR. Safe to wash hands, or get caught in rain, and possibly ford a river. I am reluctant to swim, dive, shower (pressure) with it.[*]Locate a BIGGER sterile crown. Would love to find an 8mm Sterile Crown/Tube.[*]White Seconds hand[*]Sterile Bracelet THANKS FOR LOOKING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiker01 Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 That looks cool, my friend! Excellent project! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Nice work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Very nice Ronin! Now you need to tell us about the dial. I certainly like the lume on it, where did it come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipSlap Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Wow, you went for the 18mm and the Corvus, very authentic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted January 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Thanks for the kind words everyone. Yes, I forgot to mention, (just updated the OP) I found the dial on the Seiko-Citizens trading forum for $15.00. And someone else on RG found the same via Noah Fuller. http://www.10watches...cts/show/795928 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Thanks Ronin. I certainly like the unmarked Kingston look you've created and the price is great- 1/3 of a Yao creation! And the Noah Fuller site is cool- I'm starting to get into Seikos- but I need another watch like a hole in the head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 VERY cool creation, P! Looks great! Especially on the wrist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Absolutely fantastic Awesome touch of the Beretta as well Are you going to keep it on the fabric strap, or mount it on a sterile bracelet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted January 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 @TJ - I like to have options, so I will probably go for a sterile bracelet as well. Stay tuned on that front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Looks awesome Ronin! Well done! Enjoy it (although I'm certain you will!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted January 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 FYI - Updated the OP with the following. Tips / Tricks / Lessons I learned: Ok. Now for the learn from my mistakes and experience time. In particular order, just some random musings.Hands - Trying to paint "White" over Glit, was a failure for me. So I opted for the silver seconds hand instead to obtain the look. If I were to attempt the white hand-- I would order a red yachtmaster hand for ETA, strip the paint, then paint with airbrush. The other issue in attempting the white hand was then having to relume it since chances are good the lume will get stripped, or paint on it.Hands II - A bad assumption on my part, I figured the hour hand would have a "positive stop" when pressing on. I was wrong, and my first press of the hour hand had it touching the dial. Yikes. LESSON LEARNED: press hour hand while watching closely under the loupe. Stop when you have the desired clearance, or in my case with ETA when the top of the hour hand was flush with the top of the hour wheel pinion. Tools: I simply used my Bergeon Presto Puller and 7404-2 presser. To press the second hand on I recommend Ubi's Dumb-Dumb Sucker stick.Pearl - The rep pearl was crap plastic. A more accurate vintage pearl would not work because it was too small for the hole already in the insert. The WM pearl was too big. TRICK: To fit the WM pearl I used a 3mmx.60 tap to slowly open the hole a bit bigger. Actually, just used the tip of the tap to ream the hole bigger. To prevent loss of the pearl, I also used a small amount of JB Weld Epoxy on the back side.GS Hypo Cement - I used this to glue the insert and crystal. It did the job but I am not sold on it. My weak-link from a water proofing perspective is the crystal to the case.Cutting the Stem - Surprisingly this was easy for me. Only took 2 cuts to get it right. I think the Rolex style screw down made it easier. My shortcut is, TIP: 1.) Screw on crown to uncut stem and insert into cased movement. 2.) Using my caliper I measured the distance from the tube to the start of the threads on the crown. (2.5mm) in my case. 3.) Then I measured how much squish/push the traditional Rolex screw-down crown had. About another 1mm. So I figured I needed to cut 3.5mm off the stem. 4.) Went conservative with my first cut and stuck with 2.5mm. This put the crown threads just touching the tube. Pushing it in would allow it "screw-down", but I was still a bit far away from the case when the crown bottomed on the top of the tube. 5.) Nipped off about .5mm and filed it a little bit. Viola! I used Loctite 290 on the stem to crown for final installation.Bezel - This Bi-Directional Bezel was very stiff with a very metal-on-metal feeling. TRICK: I used a little bit of Vaseline/Petroleum Jelly on the groove the tension wire rides in. Viola, smoother and easier to turn. Future Modifications (maybe):Reseal Crystal to case. Right now it water resistant to about 1 BAR. Safe to wash hands, or get caught in rain, and possibly ford a river. I am reluctant to swim, dive, shower (pressure) with it.Locate a BIGGER sterile crown. Would love to find an 8mm Sterile Crown/Tube.White Seconds handSterile Bracelet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Real nice project there Ronin, i thought it was a kingston at first, I hope it gives you great pleasure to wear as do all my home and hand made projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 I bought one of these unbranded oyster bands for my MKII mini exploder: http://cgi.ebay.com/20MM-STEEL-BAND-BRACELET-FOR-ROLEX-MEN-SUBMARINER-WATCH_W0QQitemZ250560104661QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a568bc8d5 For $16 it's not too bad- solid mid-links but who cares. But I do prefer it on the brown croc strap...., you just can't wear a strap when you're out sweating and gettin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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