rolexmaniac88 Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Dear fellow members, I just received my WM9 V3 from BK. So far so good. In order to make it close to perfect, i wanted to buy a gen insert. I had a friend who could hook me up with an AD. Unfortunately, the deal fell through. Since then, i've been browsing forums and the bay to find one, but no go! Steve Mulholland doesn't have any at the moment and $150 is a bit too much for my taste. I found these from a seller and would like to get your opinion: is he legit? I added pictures from a milgauss he is currently selling, thinking that if he sells a gen watch, he shouldn't be selling aftermarket parts. Will welcome any tips on the pictures or on where to get a gen insert at a reasonable price. Also, tell me if $150 is just the price out there, and i won't be able to find a decent one under this price range. Why i'm suspicious ? The set for the bezel assembly, the retainer and the insert is for sale at €200 or $270. The gen crystal is at €50. Also, if anyone could post what did you add to your WM9 (gen crown, tube) and the reference number on how to seek. I'm sure it won't just help me but all the people currently browsing these pages and just not finding the gems some members in here seems to find so easily!!!!! Thanks in advance Here are the pictures: The set i'm after: The Milgauss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorilladame Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 The Pearl on the insert and the crown on the clasp look mysterious... Also the back look like a two piece back, like on the DSSD. Milgauss got a one piece back... Writing on the inside of the box is also wrong IMO... Clasp should look like this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 The insert and the pearl look OK to me. But it's always tough when you're looking at a pic. Did you ask the guy if the parts are gen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolexmaniac88 Posted March 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 The insert and the pearl look OK to me. But it's always tough when you're looking at a pic. Did you ask the guy if the parts are gen? I know it is tough. That's why i have asked for help. I didn't ask but it's on a gen forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlydog Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 This might help: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcher Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Tricky to tell from the pics but the insert is genuine and the bezel and retainer do look right in the pics. I think it would be a safe punt if it were me. Cannot tell on the crystal though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolexmaniac88 Posted March 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Tricky to tell from the pics but the insert is genuine and the bezel and retainer do look right in the pics. I think it would be a safe punt if it were me. Cannot tell on the crystal though. Great, i'm not after the crystal. And it seems the price is rather fair right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolexmaniac88 Posted March 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 This might help: What is the piece 316? Do i have it on the lot i wish to buy? It also seems from the pictures i don't have the click spring (317)? Thanks for your input. This picture is just the best way to see how a gen is constructed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolexmaniac88 Posted March 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 I fear Gorilladame is right for the clasp of the milgauss. It shouldn't look like that but rather like the pic Gorilladame submitted. Which is not good for the authenticity of the insert and bezel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 The price is fine. A click spring and the flat washer and you'd have the whole bezel assembly. I agree w/ watcher, the tension ring and bezel look gen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolexmaniac88 Posted March 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 The price is fine. A click spring and the flat washer and you'd have the whole bezel assembly. I agree w/ watcher, the tension ring and bezel look gen. Where can i get those? Would the one from the WM9 fit? One question: the whole bezel assembly will fit on the WM9 right? Well, i already contacted the seller but he speaks german and i don't know if he speaks any english. I'll see if i get an answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorilladame Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Ok on the big screen the pearl really looks good and also the milgauss back looks like one piece , but the clasp is def. wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 $150 is ridiculous but thats what the market demands, so it IS on par. you can get older ones with the square 4 for $80, newer ones will def' run you $120 and up, negotiate for $120 but chances are good the damand will make it so you'll end up paying $150. you sure SteveM is dry? he always boasts about his hordes of parts and ability to get any part, ive seen the pics, stacks of inserts. Maybe he thinks you hang out on rep forums trying to buy gen parts to put in your rep a gen insert definitely looks better than any aftermarket i've ever seen, but $150 can buy a lot more of anything else. your sellers insert looks good. as for my wm9 watch all I added was a better (clarks)crystal, and a gen insert ONLY because I had one from a previous project, if I didnt already have it i'd just use a WM one. what else does it really need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolexmaniac88 Posted March 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 $150 is ridiculous but thats what the market demands, so it IS on par. you can get older ones with the square 4 for $80, newer ones will def' run you $120 and up, negotiate for $120 but chances are good the damand will make it so you'll end up paying $150. you sure SteveM is dry? he always boasts about his hordes of parts and ability to get any part, ive seen the pics, stacks of inserts. Maybe he thinks you hang out on rep forums trying to buy gen parts to put in your rep a gen insert definitely looks better than any aftermarket i've ever seen, but $150 can buy a lot more of anything else. your sellers insert looks good. as for my wm9 watch all I added was a better (clarks)crystal, and a gen insert ONLY because I had one from a previous project, if I didnt already have it i'd just use a WM one. what else does it really need? What he offered me was just older inserts with tritium pearls for $100, no luminova. He did offered me something so i hope he is not thinking that. I don't know what i could have said for him to think that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolexmaniac88 Posted March 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Does anyone know where to source a gen insert and/or bezel apart from VRF and TZ. A lot are talking about ebay but i just can't figure out the proper way to find them. I know you have to search by serial numbers and not "insert submariner 16610". Any help would be much appreciated ! In general, how do you source gen parts? NB: go on VRF on the sales section, a guy went nuts and is currently selling is entire collection of rolex only ! Some beasts among them ! The price are somewhat interesting for some of them, if anyone wants to pull the trigger, i would suggest going and take a look at this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Probnably right about SteveM, he mostly specializes in vintage parts, not to say he doesn't have aource for new, because I believe he does. May not have one in stock right now though. I would keep looking on TZ and Rolex Forum sales forums. Wouldn't hurt to post a "Want To Buy" on those forums either. If you go to the Rolex website, the current Milgauss has the EasyLink clasp which is the same as the GMT IIc Ceramic. It looks exactly like the one shown on the Milgauss the seller has for sale. i would think that this is a genuine watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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