stilty Posted March 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Thanks for the reply, I also asked my self what the hourwheel is for? Could you please explan it? If you are using a 2836 or 2846. Hand fitting height will be fine for the 1680. For the 2824, I installed H.4 parts and it is fine for the 1680. I did not install hands as I was not going to use the movement, dial, in the 1680 case. I was only using it for test fitting. The gen dial/movement will go back in when I am done. The hour wheel is what the hour hand attaches to. Cannon Pinion is what the minute hand attaches to The 4th Wheel is what the second hand attaches to. They are available in different heights to allow for dial markers, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorilladame Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 If you are using a 2836 or 2846. Hand fitting height will be fine for the 1680. For the 2824, I installed H.4 parts and it is fine for the 1680. I did not install hands as I was not going to use the movement, dial, in the 1680 case. I was only using it for test fitting. The gen dial/movement will go back in when I am done. The hour wheel is what the hour hand attaches to. Cannon Pinion is what the minute hand attaches to The 4th Wheel is what the second hand attaches to. They are available in different heights to allow for dial markers, etc. So as I ordered a 2824 I would need to get a H4, do you get this somewhere quite easily? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastergod Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 well... I still have about 200 blanks, a Pad printer, and printing plates. just a matter of finding the correct ink mixture and the time to work on it... I know Mrs. Stilty would like something done with it all! LOL I really hope to see a black&red Roulette DW to fit 28xx movt version of 6542 MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilot Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 what's the internal external diameter (in mm) of the movement ring? Regards P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilty Posted March 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 what's the internal external diameter (in mm) of the movement ring? Regards P inside dimensions are that of the ETA movement. OD dimensions are that of the Rolex movement. ETA fits snuggly in the holder, the holder matches the grooves of the Rolex case. stem position is matched so the stem does not bind in the tube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilot Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 you've just saved me having to play with my digital calipers! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilty Posted April 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 I really hope to see a black&red Roulette DW to fit 28xx movt version of 6542 MG It is possible! I have some being printed to 1570 spec, so as long as the date windows are in the same position, it will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmj Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 they look great. Can I lock in 5 1575 black date wheels and 2 1575 roulette date wheels please. Just to confirm that these will work with the 2846s and 2836 etc? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlehman Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 I have one of stilty`s adapters and it works great..I have a local watch smith working on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyd3 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Will the adapter work in a Yuki 1655 case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilty Posted April 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Will the adapter work in a Yuki 1655 case? If Yuki's 1655 case is made to gen spec, then it will fit. But the genuine 1575GMT movement is 0.17mm taller then the regular 1570 w/date, so in order for stem alignment, you will need to have a thin spacer between movement holder and dial, or just use a thicker layer of glue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 (edited) "have you tried to fit the hands on, also?" rolex 1530/1560/1570 etc hands: hour...120 minute...80 second...20 rolex 3035/3135: 140 95 22 Eta 2801/2824/36/46 etc: 150 90 25 late tudor Eta uses same hands as Eta 2824 etc early tudor Eta 2451 etc: 150 90 22 Eta 2671 (lady size) etc: 120 70 20 So... I doubt you can broach rolex 1530/1570 hour hands enough to fit the Eta hour wheel but the other two could be fitted with a little work. You might turn the Eta hour wheel hub down a little and broach the hour hand hole for the rest. I have not tried it though. I have successfully fitted yuki tudor mercedes hands on to a 2836-2 a perfect fit! Edited April 4, 2010 by aeromatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastergod Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 It is possible! I have some being printed to 1570 spec, so as long as the date windows are in the same position, it will work. Hi Stilty, pm sent:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilty Posted April 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 ***UPDATE*** TEST FITTINGS ARE IN FOR NON DATE PROJECTS Thanks to another member for the loan of a genuine 1002 case, I was able to have a prototype movement holder made for the non date models. These holders will be for non date models. 5500, 1002, 5513, 1016, 5517, etc. Either genuine or 1:1 aftermarket cases that accept 1530, 1570 non date movements. The holders are made for ETA 2824-2 only. You will not be able to fit a 2836-2 or 2846 in the gen spec non date case! The stem will not align with the tube. And speaking of stem alignment. Even the ETA 2824-2 is not perfectly aligned. The 2824-2 is slightly thicker then the Rolex 1570 movement and the stem sits slightly away from the dial. Please see pictures. This is a genuine Rolex 1002 case with an ETA 2824-2 mainplate fitted with the adapter. As you can see, the stem is slightly out off center in the tube. It is not bad and I don't really seeing it causing any problems as there is a tiny bit of play with the stem when installed in the movement anyway. I was able to screw in a crown with no problem. The good news is there are no date overlays to worry about pinching down when you install the case clamps. This is a pretty easy and straightforward build. And if you really wanted a perfectly centered stem, all you need to do is sand between 0.05mm and 0.10mm off the back of the dial for the movement to sit deeper in the case. Also, if you really want a slow beat movement, you just need to order a 2801 mainplate and install the 2846 workings (minus date device) and you will have a slow beat movement. I know I have a fair amount of interest in holders for 1680 and 1665, but I would like to get a general idea of the interest in this particular holder. Again, these will be for 1:1 spec 5513, 5512, 5517 and 1016 cases. Or you could use them in genuine 1002, 5500, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gplracer Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Add me to the list as someone who would be interested in a holder for a 1680 thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjule111 Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 i know this is a old thread but trying to reach stilty on aquiring a movement holder for a 2836... u cant receive any pms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serafino Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 With apologies to the masses, +1 but need a spacer for 2824, etc. in a 160XX case, while we're at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star69 Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 rafflestime on ebay sells them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeKa Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 rafflestime on ebay sells them To find the seller you have to search for "raffles-time" - without the dash you won't find him... Dee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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