cwai02 Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 The rule is that you don't answer religious riddle scientifically. Btw, I would believe Gods are some aliens from trillion lightyears away from earth who just happened to breed the earth as a part time project and eventually abandoned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted September 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 The rule is that you don't answer religious riddle scientifically. Not a bad rule at all. However, I am not sure the ancient greek thinkers would agree with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 God created man, or did Man create god ? Or did the two create each other and cannot survive without the other ? Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Some popular beliefs over the centuries by religions (mostly Judaic). - The earth is flat ("four corners of the earth", etc) - Witches - Devil(s)/demons - Christmas (conveniently at the end of Saturnalia) - Easter: what does this have to do with Eostre/Ishtar and the celebrations that accompanied this goddess? - other similar retaining of "inferior pagan" religions (many churches in the ancient times were just converted temples from the original religions). etc etc flat earth, witches, demons, Christmas, Easter..... "JUDAIC?" Hey, didn't they also kill Jesus? This thread is turning into one hot theological debate..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted September 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 God created man, or did Man create god ? Or did the two create each other and cannot survive without the other ? Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee... We know for sure that man created RELIGION......the other question if man created God that is way too difficult to answer properly on a forum......even on a replica watch forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 The rule is that you don't answer religious riddle scientifically. Btw, I would believe Gods are some aliens from trillion lightyears away from earth who just happened to breed the earth as a part time project and eventually abandoned it. But then the question would be, "Who created these aliens?" And from there, "Who created the creator of these aliens?" And so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Why do you think that iranian president didnt say the pope was a fat bastard? because venezuele is not muslim, its more christian achmadinedshad is also nothin more than a little [censored]! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted September 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 flat earth, witches, demons, Christmas, Easter..... "JUDAIC?" Hey, didn't they also kill Jesus? This thread is turning into one hot theological debate..... Lets not forget that Jesus was Jewish (come to think of it even God might be Jewish) and that it was only a small group of people in a city in old Palestine that had him killed...not all of us and most of our ancestors were not yet christian (or even muslim) at that time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 You guys will be chasing your tails for eternity... Until you read The Vajracchedika Prajnaparamita Sutra ('Diamond-Cutter Sutra' or 'Diamond Sutra' for short). All answers lie therein. Now, what was the question again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted September 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 @Gran Descartes (I believe) also came up with the idea of the Evil Deceiver to fill in the other side of the equation. Here's a question: certainly an object will have a creator and a time of creation. But how about an inanimate thing, such as a mental construct or an idea? Did it have a time of origin, or have all thoughts and concepts always preexisted? (you can see where this is going) Yes! I can see where this is going and I like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted September 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 You guys will be chasing your tails for eternity... Stop a minute there..... come to think of it we dont have tails at least I do not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 I meant 'tales'.... :-) "All composed things are like a dream, a phantom, a drop of dew, a flash of lightning. That is how to meditate on them, that is how to observe them." YEE-HAW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Does god exist? Xabi Alonso just scored from 70 yards against Newcastle. His 2nd goal from his own half in the space of under a year. Surely a legend. Where's docblackrock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekhunter Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 You guys will be chasing your tails for eternity... Until you read The Vajracchedika Prajnaparamita Sutra ('Diamond-Cutter Sutra' or 'Diamond Sutra' for short). All answers lie therein. Now, what was the question again? The question was which came first, the chicken or the egg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Padge Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 (edited) The egg came 1st. It was laid by a bird that was at the starting point of evolving into the chicken as we know it today..... Edited September 21, 2006 by Mickey Padge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 The concept of "chicken" came first. What was the origin of that concept? Where's jjajh these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted September 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Does god exist? Xabi Alonso just scored from 70 yards against Newcastle. His 2nd goal from his own half in the space of under a year. Surely a legend. Where's docblackrock? Thank God Xabi Alonso exists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted September 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 The egg came 1st. It was laid by a bird that was at the starting point of evolving into the chicken as we know it today..... I agree. The egg came first....but how to define the "egg" thats the question 1. a. A female gamete; an ovum. Also called egg cell. b. The round or oval female reproductive body of various animals, including birds, reptiles, amphibians, fishes, and insects, consisting usually of an embryo surrounded by nutrient material and a protective covering. c. The oval, thin-shelled reproductive body of a bird, especially that of a hen, used as food. 2. Something having the ovoid shape of an egg. 3. Slang A fellow; a person: He's a good egg. tr.v. egged, egg·ing, eggs 1. To cover with beaten egg, as in cooking. 2. Slang To throw eggs at. Idioms: egg on (one's) face Informal Embarrassment; humiliation: If you do that, you'll end up with egg on your face. lay an egg Informal To fail, especially in a public performance. put/have all (one's) eggs in one basket Informal To risk everything on a single venture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 I'll stick to tickling the fallopian tubes. Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekhunter Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 GOD said 'let their be Chicken', and a chicken appeared. Shortly therafter, in the garden of Eden, a man in a white suit with a white beard appeared, it was reported to be Col. Sanders. The rest is 'finger licking good' history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 GOD said 'let their be Chicken', and a chicken appeared. Shortly therafter, in the garden of Eden, a man in a white suit with a white beard appeared, it was reported to be Col. Sanders. The rest is 'finger licking good' history. ekhunter's I.D.* explanation is the hallmark of a man who has understood it all! *I.D. = Intelligent Dinner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdman Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 God uses homonyms? So when Jesus stood up in the boat during the storm and said "Peace! Be still" what he REALLY meant was "Piece! Be steel!" Good thing the boat didn't sink. No he said Please be still I'm seasick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjajh Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 @Ryyannon Where's jjajh these days? Look up about 15 rows in section FF...no not GG...FF. See the guy with the white robes, gasa hat and shades...eating popcorn....that's me. This is one hellava spectacle and it's free I am of the old school that believes that the superiority of exemplification always trumps explicit rules of behavior. In looking for common ground, the only clear palce to start is that we are all homo sapiens. After that, the horses have left the barn. So...sitting here enjoying the day, hating absolutely nobody and wiggling my toes is about the best example I can be at this moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 It would be a wonderful thing to be left alone and to wiggle our collective toes in the sand. But some other cultures are compelled by their beliefs to spread those beliefs abroad, by sword if necessary, and we will not be left alone. As much as it behoves me to say this, but the US is the single largest exporter of military strength. The one country guilty of spreading their beliefs by sword above all others. Don't get me wrong, I'm not in any way defending terrorists or fundamentalists, but of all the stances to take, the one of "They're attacking countries outside their borders" is the most hypocritical of them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 On one hand, there is probably a perfect reciprocity between the visible violence of fundamentalist fanatics and the somewhat less visible violence of the fanatics of a global, liberal economy with its cortege of multi-national corporations, unrestrained capitalism and the homogenization of cultures. Be it as it may, I sometimes dream of the improbable retreat of U.S. interests behind the virtual walls of a Fortress America - a kind of splendid 19th-century Isolationism, the ramparts from which we could observe the rest of the world implode under the weight of its own unresolved stresses, contradictions, and fault-lines. Are we (the U.S.) the glue holding things together, or the agent of global disintegration? If Atlas shrugs, would the world be a better place? How I wish that we could turn our ressources and energies inward to better our own nation and our own people.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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