Yannou Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Hi to all, Just got those pics from my WS about my AP ROO Navy Theme. It seems that the central gear got an improvement The pics I will let speak the experts here.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 I thought the center gear was always jeweled? Or was that seconds at 3 version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolfire Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 which model AP@12 did this come from? *Woops... failed to read that it is the Navy Themes. Anyhow, that is interesting to note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yannou Posted June 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 I have 2 AP @12 and in one the central gear is not jewelled...I don't know if it comes with the new APs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 ah may be it is new on the sec at 12s then, are any of the other transfer gears jeweled now that were not before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caruwe Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 I have the newest AP. The sec at 12 runs realy smooth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katerchen Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 (edited) Can anyone shoot our bro Francesco a PM to peek a boo?? K! Maybe before typing to much worthless i should simply do that... Am 100% sure hes the one capable to shed some light to this issue!! He did a complete teardown and review on the mech of the secs@12 movt. Thanks for posting this!!! George Edited June 18, 2010 by Katerchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francisco Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 New APs are coming with this jewelled central gear. it is not new, at least not so new. But again, I am a quite boring, I know, but the main problem with APs IS NOT FRICTION, is a wrong assembly. More info here: regards, Francisco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bike Mike Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Both my AP ROO have the center geared jeweled. As Franciso said, friction is not the issue. The makers should have really have reversed how they ran the seconds to 12 and minutes to 9. They should have had the minutes move through the center gear and not the seconds. Since the seconds run all the time, they really need to transfer through the least amount of gears as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru1 Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 all movements shipped since March have this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 @ Francisco and Mike, thats for the Info. This Is the reason Im still somewhat leary of this configuration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luda46 Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 all movements shipped since March have this Do you know which dealers, because I still see dealers selling their old stock saying that they have the new improvements when in reality it doesn't. I want a Volcano SO BAD!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luda46 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Do you know which dealers, because I still see dealers selling their old stock saying that they have the new improvements when in reality it doesn't. I want a Volcano SO BAD!!! anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru1 Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 anyone? New AP's or AP's which have been out of stock have the new movement. Like the Silver Themes was not available 4 weeks ago, it comes now with the new movement. If the dealer has old stock, you get the old movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingenieur Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 New AP's or AP's which have been out of stock have the new movement. Like the Silver Themes was not available 4 weeks ago, it comes now with the new movement. If the dealer has old stock, you get the old movement. hi guys, I want to buy AP ROO either Panda or Safari or maybe Volcano, but still affraid with the sec @12 issue. should I take the sec @ 9 to be safe or take the sec @ 12? please advice, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kesha Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 hi guys, I want to buy AP ROO either Panda or Safari or maybe Volcano, but still affraid with the sec @12 issue. should I take the sec @ 9 to be safe or take the sec @ 12? please advice, thanks I've been trying to decide myself. Most of the threads talking about the movement issues with sec@12 version seem pretty old and I'm curious to know if the newer batches still have as many issues. Also, I read through Francisco's thread and have been wondering how difficult would it be to have a local shop perform the mods needed to make the sec@12 movement reliable. Anyone have any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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