Star69 Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 there is a - really nice - but still replica for sale at Repgeek ... for 7000 Euros ... this is by far the most expensive Rep i ever seen do they really go so high these days ? anybody offers more ? please show me your 2K+ Replicas .... cheers, Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subbiesrock Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 Not sure about your particular example, but I've seen some dealers charging truly astronomic amounts for what are claimed to be 'solid gold' cases. If someone has found a Gen movement, Gen dial, Gen Hands etc, I could see it running up to a grand. Some reps are reaching 1-1.5k in the sales thread here...but 7k? Hmmmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 What is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drulee Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 What is it? Some VDB vintaged offering with an 8 day movement. Not my cup of tea at any price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickdick Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 There is no way to justify that price for a replica unless it has the unerlying value to back up the price, like movement value or precious metal value etc. If its not there it is simply paying for thin air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 Its a angelus powered non alarm VDB vintage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinsk Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Non alarm Angelus movements have sold well in excess of 5k on ebay, there is underlying value in that. the rest of the watch is totally custom handmade by VDB and there is nothing that comes close to the accuracy and quality of his builds. Whether that is worth it is up to the purchaser. I for one think the watch is awesome, but will hold on to my hard earned and would think that 7k would rather see a nice gen (if i had nothing better to spend on) personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naveedgt Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaPOFL Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 yeah... VDB's stuff costs a lot... but the quality is unmatched (except of course from a gen ;p) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subbiesrock Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 How much is the gen version ffs!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 How much is the gen version ffs!? Last auction that was held sometime last year I heard it went for well over $100K. And then there's the actual availability which is close to none these days, as most of their current owners are guarding their prized possessions well ;-) Well executed vintage Pam reps with non-alarm Angelus are quite expensive, primarily due to scarcity and attractiveness of the movement itself. I can't say I'm surprised about the 7K Euro price tag for the one in question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subbiesrock Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Last auction that was held sometime last year I heard it went for well over $100K. And then there's the actual availability which is close to none these days, as most of their current owners are guarding their prized possessions well ;-) Well executed vintage Pam reps with non-alarm Angelus are quite expensive, primarily due to scarcity and attractiveness of the movement itself. I can't say I'm surprised about the 7K Euro price tag for the one in question. I'll have to eat my words, that falls well under the '10% of a Gen' price! ) That's actually pretty good value at 7k Euros! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 I suppose everyone needs to make up their own minds on this but I will say that anyone who spends 7K on a rep has some serious disposable income. At the end of the day it doesn't matter what has been done to it the watch is still fake and if that is ever discovered there's really no point in saying "But it has a non alarm Angelus movement in it". Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 At the end of the day it doesn't matter what has been done to it the watch is still fake and if that is ever discovered there's really no point in saying "But it has a non alarm Angelus movement in it". Mate, you're going to have to drop that avatar first, then we'll talk vintage Panerai stuff LOL! Seriously though, the watch in question and the likes has long past its 'rep' designation. True, it is a rep by its origin but to those serious vintage Panerai collectors and aficionados is so much more. In lieu of a genuine Panerai from the second WW era which are pushing well over $100K these days (if you're lucky to come across one on auction or sale, that is) this is as close the original Panerai DNA as those guys will ever get, and they don't even mind ending up with a hommage either. These watches transcend into a different fora and are more fitting the genuine/hommage collectors crowd than rep forums, IMO. The particular movement mentioned above is so scarce today it's close to impossible to find one in good working order and yes, the mov't itself commands prices upwards of $4K. Take that watch for example, replace the dial with the one without the text (Guille from Paneristi has done a similar project, BTW), ring Volker/Guille/Ralf and co from 'risti and believe me they will be all over it in no time. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's OK to dish out so much money on a rep or a hommage, but there's a whole different world of Vintage Panerai lovers out there that some 2 years ago wouldn't even blink before reaching for their credit cards for one of those watches. cheers! b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star69 Posted September 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Mate, you're going to have to drop that avatar first, then we'll talk vintage Panerai stuff LOL! Seriously though, the watch in question and the likes has long past its 'rep' designation. True, it is a rep by its origin but to those serious vintage Panerai collectors and aficionados is so much more. In lieu of a genuine Panerai from the second WW era which are pushing well over $100K these days (if you're lucky to come across one on auction or sale, that is) this is as close the original Panerai DNA as those guys will ever get, and they don't even mind ending up with a hommage either. These watches transcend into a different fora and are more fitting the genuine/hommage collectors crowd than rep forums, IMO. The particular movement mentioned above is so scarce today it's close to impossible to find one in good working order and yes, the mov't itself commands prices upwards of $4K. Take that watch for example, replace the dial with the one without the text (Guille from Paneristi has done a similar project, BTW), ring Volker/Guille/Ralf and co from 'risti and believe me they will be all over it in no time. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's OK to dish out so much money on a rep or a hommage, but there's a whole different world of Vintage Panerai lovers out there that some 2 years ago wouldn't even blink before reaching for their credit cards for one of those watches. cheers! b the price of the gen version reflects the DNA - the history of the watch - still too crazy imho today - 10 years ago they were like 10k ? this example was build without any Panerai-DNA - worth the material costs only imho - wich leaves the movement sorry - i dont like the case at all - but thats just me. on the other hand i remember Guille recently posted his watch on Paneriti with an fake dial and wrong crown - at least the dial does not belong in his watch - i was kind of surpristed this watch was not called out - i think if its a vintage and has the right movement, the replica - or "homage" is accepted in the gen world = crazy prices on the movements on ebay .. cheers, Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbiz Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 not that long ago a non alarm angelus 240 sold for over $7k on eBay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flex Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 I have been going back and forth to that sales thread in question. Very beautfiul watch. But I won't fork out the money for that watch. For that amount of money, I would rather buy a 16520 and give it to my children as an investment. The rep can only be sold in the forums. At the end of the day, a rep is still a rep. The average joe wil not appreciate it. The high-end gen collectors will notice it as a rep as they will bring out their loupes and examine the whole thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 I'll have to eat my words, that falls well under the '10% of a Gen' price! ) That's actually pretty good value at 7k Euros! +1. In the end, one does what they want with their money, right? But still, it's a lot of money for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subbiesrock Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 - better than 40k for a rep, I suppose... ...too soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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