bollobandit Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 It's been awhile since I did a review and this one was pretty damn hard. Honestly as I was uploading pics I could not tell which was the rep and gen ...this rep is that good. Thankfully I didn't mod the crown pin as it was a good give away however once this easy mod is done it's going to be a killer. The 236 or 250 (without ss bracelet) is one of my favourite pams. I was fortunate to pick up a gen earlier this year. The version I have is the "i" which I believe was released 2005/6 and the rep (that is being compared) is the "k" version which was released in 2009. The biggest difference from gen "i" and "k" are the following; - the 236i has lug cut outs as seen in this pic - the 236k does not have lug cut outs however it has lug/bar quick snap pusher as seen in this pic - of course the 236i does not have roller lever and the k does Now that we know the differences between the "i" and "k" let's move on to the comparison between the REP "k" version vs. the GEN "i" version. Please note the gen is always on the left and rep is on the right. Looks pretty close...2 very minor items 1) the lever pin on the rep could be flatten...a very easy fix 2) the DW on the gen is a tad bolder The crystal on the rep has a very slightly purple tint. The cg and crown looks pretty good The caseback - the engraving could be shaper and deeper The side date adjuster How flush is the DW you ask...please judge for yourself It's about a hairline difference from the gen. IMO it's great and no one can tell - even with both on hand to compare. The bracelet Wrist shot Overall -IMO this is the best out of the box pam out there and for the price it's a no brainer. I'll get the CP flatten/polished soon and besides that it's all it needs. Thanks for looking guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollobandit Posted September 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Random side by side pics (Try to guess which one is gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadtorrent Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Great write-up...the only really easy tell, is the subdial posts are black on the rep vs silver on the gen. Great rep!!! Thanks for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollobandit Posted September 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Great write-up...the only really easy tell, is the subdial posts are black on the rep vs silver on the gen. Great rep!!! Thanks for this. Great eye. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmStaFF Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 great review thanks buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickdick Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 The other tell is the gaps between the lever and CG. Must admid, side by side its hard to tell the difference regarding the datewheel position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0lf Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Thanks for the review! I think the sub seconds/totalizer hand posts could probably be made silver again if you sand off the paint over say 4K-6K grit micro finishing paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest al12 Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Great review. I am so glad I didn't jump on the 188 with 7753. The new ones are much better in the build quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geo1nah2a Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Wow! That is so close... Thank you for the time you put in this. Appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drulee Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Great write-up...the only really easy tell, is the subdial posts are black on the rep vs silver on the gen. Great rep!!! Thanks for this. A little silver paint on the end of a toothpic should take care of that Now we just wait for the review of the movement .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eton Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Wow, thanks for the review!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Great review mate...much appreciated! So it appears the diff between the DW cutouts isn't that big, but still evident unfortunately. Would you mind posting some macro dial shots that show DW cutouts side-by-side if possible? many thanks, b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importr Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Great comparison! thanks. I notice that the gen bracelets' SELs are much tighter to the case than the rep. In fact, the whole gen SEL looks like it is made to a tighter tolerance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollobandit Posted September 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Great comparison! thanks. I notice that the gen bracelets' SELs are much tighter to the case than the rep. In fact, the whole gen SEL looks like it is made to a tighter tolerance. Yes the gen SEL is super tight...I'm afraid to switch the ss bracelet to the leather strap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colorao Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Great review , great photos Thanks by show us. many people will be very happy with see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medphreak Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 I was resisting the urge to get a 236....until your post!! Thanks for sharing! medP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinsk Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Cannot believe how close they are! Thanks for the review! Chrissy present for Dad incoming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuli Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Wow. Can someone say super rep? I thought I was done with PAMS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertk Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Great write up and review. it's absolutely amazing how far reps are progressing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swdivad Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Great comparison! This is a great rep for sure... you need a microscope to tell the difference Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Fantastic review,thank you so very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Bollo- Fabulous review. Overall it looks fantastic. Must be the best out of the box PAM rep. Although that date is definitely based on a 7750 rather than 7753 it definitely passes the visual test - huge improvement over the A7750. I really have to look closely to see the difference. The CG looks to be another story. Wrong shaped lever and hole in the cg body and the funny part is that it is probably more effort to machine the curved top of the cg lever versus the flat on the gen. Pick up a gen cg for the rep and sell the gen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p11c Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 I was resisting the urge to get a 236....until your post!! Thanks for sharing! medP Yep, me too, buying it this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgchrono2 Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Great rep and sure on my list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Excellent side-by-side! You do this community proud!!! I'm guessing there will be a few more of these appearing around here for the next few weeks For the sub-dial hand posts, I'd use a small refinishing pen. I'd bet that would take the little bit of paint off nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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