sneed12 Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Just got one of these: http://cgi.ebay.com/Swiss-Sapphire-Crystal-Gasket-fit-Rolex-Watch-NEW-/200507384326?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item746ab086b1 last night. Allegedly, it's supposed to have a cyclops with AR. Look at the photos on the listing: I installed it in my GMT IIc last night. It was a direct replacement for the Noobfactory crystal, although the gaskets that came with the aftermarket crystal did not fit and I had to re-use the gasket that was already in the watch. In short, don't bother. There definitely IS AR on the crystal, you can tell if you look closely witha loupe. But it doesn't have anything like the effect that the gen does. In fact in regular use you can barely tell. I don't have pics yet because when I was trying to take pics last night, I wasn't able to get a single one that showed the effect of the AR. I'll try again tonight. I don't feel like I was ripped off; it's still a pretty nice sapphire crystal for $20 shipped. That's not a bad deal if you think about it. But it does not have the AR effect I was after. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imp1254 Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 That is a shame I would have got one if it was any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 In order to get this effect The crystal must be AR'd like the gen (on the underside of the crystal, below the cyclops) (gen crystal) In case you missed it, read this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collin24 Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) So the only option is a gen crystal. I found that crystal while searching for a gen on the bay... How much is a gen anyway and where can I find one? Cheers, Catalin Edited November 17, 2010 by Collin24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member X Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Is the Gen a direct replacement for the noobfactory crystals? I was under the impression that nothing Gen fitted the noobfactory stuff?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collin24 Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Found this one: My link Is the model no. correct for the GMTIIC? Catalin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 How much is a gen anyway and where can I find one? Retail when I got mine was about $95 & the only source is Rolex or a Rolex watchmaker with a parts account (Rolex does not sell parts directly to the public). Mine came from a friend as a 1-time favor. Is the Gen a direct replacement for the noobfactory crystals? My CHS GMTIIC was part of the initial run from Josh a year or 2 ago & fitting a gen xtal was a gamble since no one had previously attempted it. Fortunately, (with the exception of the gen xtal gasket) the xtal fit perfectly (but I did have to reuse the rep gasket - there are a couple of threads detailing my experience that you can search out). I have no idea whether the noobfactory reps accept gen parts. So, if you can source the xtal, you might have to bite the bullet & throw the dice as I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pman Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Sneed, a big thank you for being our guinea pig and trying it out. I'm sorry it didn't work out the way you liked. It's nice of you to share so that the rest of us don't make the same mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 Or you could use this AR'd cyclops and get the whole underside of your rep crystal AR coated. Not exactly like gen but it will be an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIFF Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 But it does not have the AR effect I was after. Oh well. I think that is because the gen has AR on both sides... Here on RWG and Repgeek people tend to think the gen only has Ar on the inside. http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=30808&drgn=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosnik Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 JIFF: interesting link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macjulivert Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 Hello friends. I have bought a glass of this and certainly the AR is almost negligible. But I also buy a cyclop here in the forum that was made with AR. I've taken everything the watchmaker to replace the glass cyclop by having AR and install it all on the clock. When you have finished work will try to post photos so you can see the result. A greeting. With just make it a little better, I'll be happy. Since cyclop and glass are not as expensive, if they improve the clock and all I need. Escuchar Leer fonéticamente Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 As someone mentioned already, the way to achieve the gen look more easily is to coat the entire underside of the crystal, and both sides of the cyclops. With the top side of the crystal uncoated, you're going to achieve the exact same look as the gen: lots of reflection off the crystal surface, with a clear cyclops over the date. The AR under the cyclops only on the Rolex crystal is slick, but totally unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macjulivert Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 As someone mentioned already, the way to achieve the gen look more easily is to coat the entire underside of the crystal, and both sides of the cyclops. With the top side of the crystal uncoated, you're going to achieve the exact same look as the gen: lots of reflection off the crystal surface, with a clear cyclops over the date. The AR under the cyclops only on the Rolex crystal is slick, but totally unnecessary. Chieff, you get AR coating to the glass, right? I have a glass without a Rolex cyclop if I send it to you, would give an AR coating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 The crystal and the cyclop have to be coated separately. So, if your cyclop is already removed then you're good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbh Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 When I first saw that eBay listing I emailed him and asked about the ar'd cyclops. He had no idea what I was talking about and the short answer was, "I don't think so". Don't waste your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosnik Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 As someone mentioned already, the way to achieve the gen look more easily is to coat the entire underside of the crystal, and both sides of the cyclops. With the top side of the crystal uncoated, you're going to achieve the exact same look as the gen: lots of reflection off the crystal surface, with a clear cyclops over the date. The AR under the cyclops only on the Rolex crystal is slick, but totally unnecessary. Nice Tip Chieftang! thank you! Do you got idea about who to solve A/R problem with a GEN crystal too? I suppose that is not possible to get out the cyclope there. I got some GEN crystals around, and would like the A/R effect on Cyclope, GMT II-C like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 Nice Tip Chieftang! thank you! Do you got idea about who to solve A/R problem with a GEN crystal too? I suppose that is not possible to get out the cyclope there. I got some GEN crystals around, and would like the A/R effect on Cyclope, GMT II-C like. I've never tried to remove a cyclops from a gen crystal. But if it is attached with crystal cement, then you can remove it by the same method as the rep. If it is a one piece crystal/cyclops combo (which I doubt) then we're not going to be able to create the same look as the gen GMT IIC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosnik Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 Thank you Chief ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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