tonyp1 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) The 1680 was the only gen Ive ever owned. So I was greatly excited to see joshes white 1680. Funny thing is it was so long ago that I owned the gen I cant remember much about it. I didn't hang out on the forums back then and didn't really study the watch. Just wore it and thought it was cool. One thing thats not right on this rep is the crown. Its too big. The pictures make the crown look much larger than it actually is. Especially in close up shots. The bracelet feels a lot lighter than I remember my gen. But that was 10 years ago. lol Anyways here are the pics. All in all for $200 a pretty decent rep. The crystal is super nice on these reps the date mag is nice to. Edited January 27, 2011 by tonyp1
slickdick Posted January 27, 2011 Report Posted January 27, 2011 Cant go wrong with a vintage rolly Besides plexi is sexy, by definition. :I [censored] at AR coating: Gues we need a new icon
panerai153 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Posted January 27, 2011 These are pretty nice, the crown is Waaaaay too big. First mod would be a genuine crown. Supposedly the Tube will work with a genuine crown, but even if it didn't a Clark tube will only set you back about 17-20 bucks. These have a 2846 motor , so it's slow beat almost the same as the genuine 1570 that was in your genuine. Pretty nice silver date wheel too. Bezel /crystal attachment is weird, not at all like the genuine. You can get genuine inserts to fit, probably with some sanding and glue. I don't think genuine bezels will work, at least without modifications of the machinist nature.All in all a pretty darn nice rep at a very reasonable price. It's not and old skool MBW that takes genuine parts with no mods, but they are in another price bracket as well, when you can find one.
jmb Posted January 27, 2011 Report Posted January 27, 2011 Y'all are about to force me into getting one of these - Lord knows I've made enough crystal retention rings for 'em! Is the general consensus this and the PT sourced model re the same watch? I know I've made crystal rings for both and the construction appears to be the same...a
Gileto Posted January 27, 2011 Report Posted January 27, 2011 Is it me or the crownguards are wayyy too small ? I mean they dont envelop the Crown at all !?
Mapman57 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Posted January 27, 2011 Thought the Josh version was high beat 2836-2 ....but I never checked - might be wrong? Either way this is NOT the same watch as the PT version....different case and insert for starters. What is the bracelet set up on this version?
Zackb911 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Posted January 27, 2011 Looks nice... I may need to add a white 1680 as well.
tonyp1 Posted January 27, 2011 Author Report Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) Is it me or the crownguards are wayyy too small ? I mean they dont envelop the Crown at all !? Its the crown. Its too big. With a micro setting on a camera its HUGE lol Edited January 27, 2011 by tonyp1
tgchrono2 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 Come on ......who cares if its a big crown ? Even a simple genuine owner will hardly check the differnce when you will have the watch on your wirst. The watch is very good for this price range.
bkwbkw Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 I purchased one of these from Josh, and while it was in transit was able to pick up a PT 1680 from a private sale. The watches (as stated above) are indeed quite different. Here's what I've been able to notice. PT's crown guards are much taller and meatier which is a good thing because they need a serious massage. Josh's are stubby and short - which can be made to look decent if you take some meat off the at 10/20.703 will fit both cases rep tubes - a good thing if you dont feel like countersinking gen/clark tubes.PT case and caseback are stamped 1680, Josh's are stamped 5512 / 5513Bezel assembly on Josh's allows perfect swaps for clark and gen xtals. On PT's you need to get a new retaining ring fabricated if you want to change xtals.Josh's xtal is nicely bevelled while PT's has no bevel at all. Both date mags are very good. PT's case back is nicely rounded, Josh's has some flat spots which look like it was flat before then someone tried grinding it round << could be a manufacturing defect only on mine The dials are totally differnt. Most notably, PT's date window sits a bit too far to the right therefore dates arent centered.PT's insert (imo) is nicer than josh's. Josh's pearl hole is too large - for those who like to pop pearls off while vintage-izing Both reps out the box are very good and will fool 95% of the folks out there. The only real mods needed are to drill out the lug holes, pick up some 2mm spring bars, and a gen crown. Anyways, for my project I took the good parts from both watches, added an MBW dial (THANKS UBI!), a gen 702 crown/tube and it's now at Pb Dad's spa for treatment.
tgchrono2 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 for cheap vintage subs u can buy smthing like this :
Jimster Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 for cheap vintage subs u can buy smthing like this : tiny little pictures. like what?
jmb Posted January 29, 2011 Report Posted January 29, 2011 [*]Bezel assembly on Josh's allows perfect swaps for clark and gen xtals. On PT's you need to get a new retaining ring fabricated if you want to change xtals. Some of the new Cartel vintage watches have gone to the same type crystal ring w/plastic spacer as the PT watch, thus my curiosity as to whether they were the same basic watch or not.
marcl Posted January 30, 2011 Report Posted January 30, 2011 I know I am not an expert, but I really am finding it hard to see many flaws with this watch, at least not without being super picky. Yes I can see that the crown is too big and maybe the hands are a little different in that the borders around the lume are a little thicker, but i'm not sure you could see this without a loupe to be honest. I can't see much wrong with the insert, dial or crystal. Compared to the gen pic I have. Looks excellent to me, damn fine! But I do have one question. What about the A2813 version? Low beat just the same, alot of people say they are a decent workhorse and $98! Surely a must, no? Kindest regards. Marc.
Jimster Posted January 31, 2011 Report Posted January 31, 2011 I know I am not an expert, but I really am finding it hard to see many flaws with this watch, at least not without being super picky. Yes I can see that the crown is too big and maybe the hands are a little different in that the borders around the lume are a little thicker, but i'm not sure you could see this without a loupe to be honest. I can't see much wrong with the insert, dial or crystal. Compared to the gen pic I have. Looks excellent to me, damn fine! But I do have one question. What about the A2813 version? Low beat just the same, alot of people say they are a decent workhorse and $98! Surely a must, no? Kindest regards. Marc. IMO, a must as well. Josh is down for the New Year until Feb 12th but that is the latest and greatest version. It will take gen parts, an ETA mvt, hands are the same. The only thing that doesn't work is the dial feet. You will need to clip those if you put in a slow beat ETA. The reconditioned ETA 2846 that Joshua sells will need service when you get it and it's on an older version. Jim
marcl Posted January 31, 2011 Report Posted January 31, 2011 IMO, a must as well. Josh is down for the New Year until Feb 12th but that is the latest and greatest version. It will take gen parts, an ETA mvt, hands are the same. The only thing that doesn't work is the dial feet. You will need to clip those if you put in a slow beat ETA. The reconditioned ETA 2846 that Joshua sells will need service when you get it and it's on an older version. Jim Yeah but what is wrong with buying the $98 version, not modding it, just putting it on your wrist. It looks pretty goods to me, better than pretty good! Kindest regards, Marc.
tgchrono2 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Posted January 31, 2011 SO KNOW we have to wait for this Chinese Holidays. I was wondering why we do not celebrate our New Year like the Chinese do ?
Jimster Posted January 31, 2011 Report Posted January 31, 2011 Yeah but what is wrong with buying the $98 version, not modding it, just putting it on your wrist. It looks pretty goods to me, better than pretty good! Kindest regards, Marc. That's the way to do it. Then replace the movement when the 2813 quits!
tonyp1 Posted February 2, 2011 Author Report Posted February 2, 2011 Had to post up some pics of my 1680 and 1665 side by side.
marcl Posted February 2, 2011 Report Posted February 2, 2011 These are pretty nice, the crown is Waaaaay too big. First mod would be a genuine crown. Supposedly the Tube will work with a genuine crown, but even if it didn't a Clark tube will only set you back about 17-20 bucks. These have a 2846 motor , so it's slow beat almost the same as the genuine 1570 that was in your genuine. Pretty nice silver date wheel too. Bezel /crystal attachment is weird, not at all like the genuine. You can get genuine inserts to fit, probably with some sanding and glue. I don't think genuine bezels will work, at least without modifications of the machinist nature.All in all a pretty darn nice rep at a very reasonable price. It's not and old skool MBW that takes genuine parts with no mods, but they are in another price bracket as well, when you can find one. I think this is the updated version of the one you mention. It has a 2836 or an a2813 and has a different bezel construction 'same as genuine'. As far as I am aware the plastic retaining ring has gone aswell. Also the dial has been updated. I am going to start a new thread about this watch because I think alot of people have overlooked this watch (and because I want one) , not realising it is an updated version. And quite frankley a very nice and IMO accurate rep. Kindest regards, Marc.
cousin_hub Posted February 2, 2011 Report Posted February 2, 2011 Hi I just bought the new 5513 to Trusty (the same as Josh) and I like it :-)
tonyp1 Posted February 2, 2011 Author Report Posted February 2, 2011 Tony are these franken models? There both out of the box. The great white 1665 is from PT. Its my beater. Ive done my best to make it look as believable as possible.
flex Posted February 2, 2011 Report Posted February 2, 2011 could you show us a pic of end links and bracelet? looks good from your photos there!
marcl Posted February 3, 2011 Report Posted February 3, 2011 Its the crown. Its too big. With a micro setting on a camera its HUGE lol Hi tonyp1, What do you think of the bracelet? Kind regards, Marc.
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