justlounging Posted April 10, 2011 Report Posted April 10, 2011 Hi all, Just got my QC from Angus on the Steve McQueen Explorer II.. anything that I should take note of OR is this piece good to go? In the 2nd pic, it looks like the hollow-type bracelet is used..is this accurate? Any advise is greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Jkay Posted April 10, 2011 Report Posted April 10, 2011 The folded bracelet is accurate, yes ... but ... why is he still selling the OLD stock of bad dials? It's been almost a year since they fixed how the markers should touch the rehaut. Unless Angus sells a different EII than the newest cartel version?
pr0digy30 Posted April 10, 2011 Report Posted April 10, 2011 Yeah, Josh/Andrew updated their dials ages ago. I'd pass on this one, until he can get you one with the proper marker placement.
TeeJay Posted April 10, 2011 Report Posted April 10, 2011 (edited) This is the same as mine (and same dealer) and the markers touch the rehaut... Had to lume and varnish the dial myself though, as this comes lumeless and gloss finish. [Edit to add] I forgot to say, when it arrived, the 24hr hand was quite pale, but a dab of marker pen sorted that Edited April 10, 2011 by TeeJay
geo1nah2a Posted April 10, 2011 Report Posted April 10, 2011 Not an expert of RLX 1655, but here is my best guess: Glass is too tall. Clasp is wrong (should end flat next to the crown). Bezel numbers are too bold. Depending on the price, this might be a bad version or a good bargain. Here is some good reading for you: http://www.doubleredseadweller.com/oh_e2.htm
justlounging Posted April 11, 2011 Author Report Posted April 11, 2011 Thanks all for the advice..i have informed Angus on the inaccuracies and hope he'll source and QC a better piece.. I know the mentioned issues can be sorted out with aftermarket parts but since Angus stated his as the best out of box, i'll put it to the test..
Jkay Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 The cartel released a very good version 1 year ago. We are trying to tell you this.
justlounging Posted April 11, 2011 Author Report Posted April 11, 2011 isnt Angus part of the cartel as well? so do you mean i should ask for a refund instead?
Jkay Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 Yes, since you mention it, Angus was one of the several dealers first called "the cartel" but he's not normally referred to as such nowadays in a casual manner. Go to Perfect Clones and look at the latest Explorer release. Available in ETA or a21j for as low as $128, in white OR aged dial colors. Ask Angus (or his helpers) to source the watch with the better dial. Or not! Its up to you, of course.
justlounging Posted April 11, 2011 Author Report Posted April 11, 2011 ok thanks mate..appreciate the advice..didnt know that Angus was 'off' the cartel list.. looking at perfect clones site now.. weird that the site shows 2 different pics, one with the markers touching the rehaut and another not..
Jkay Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 When they released that watch in September, it had the incorrect dial. People told Jos about the error and he had it fixed within a month or two.
justlounging Posted April 11, 2011 Author Report Posted April 11, 2011 Roger that..thanks once again!
justlounging Posted April 11, 2011 Author Report Posted April 11, 2011 Can i request for full refund from Angus if I decide to go with another dealer?
geo1nah2a Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 Angus is one of the top dealers. Are you sure he can't source you what you want? Credit card refunds can be slow. Can you give us the link to the model you ordered?
justlounging Posted April 11, 2011 Author Report Posted April 11, 2011 http://www.puretimewatch.com/product/explorer-ii-1655-vintage-best-edition-eta2846/ This is the link.. Sent Angus a couple of emails on the mentioned issues so far but only reply is to wait..
justlounging Posted April 11, 2011 Author Report Posted April 11, 2011 thing is..i had paid for the PAM 26k and 1655 but only after making payment, i was informed that the 26k is out of stock.. prior to that, i did ask and confirm if they had stock for both watches..they said they have..
automatico Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 The watch in your pic looks to be a little bit too thick (maybe because of the crystal), and there is the outer dial marker problem. The outer marker position is not perfectly accurate to original but one thing it has going for it is you are less likely to scratch the luminous material off when R/R the movement. Many genuine 1655 have chipped outer markers because they are so close to the case. Here are some figures on a genuine (1971/72) 1655 from a post I put on TRC in November 2006. I know you can not tell how close the watch really is until it arrives but here are the measurements for when it does: The genuine watch case is 38.25mm wide measured from the underside between the 8 and 20 hour marks on the bezel. Bezel OD is 37.95mm (probably closer to 38mm when new). The bezel is a bit wider than the case on the genuine watch on the 9 o'clock side. The bezel and case are even on the genuine watch at 4 and 8. The genuine watch is 26.25mm wide across the lugs at the center of the springbar holes measured from the underside. Overall thickness is 13.4mm with a used crystal and has a 6.0mm crown. The genuine watch has a silver date wheel with black letters and a 'no dot' sweep second hand. Centers of the springbar holes are 5.7mm from the mid case on the genuine watch (measured from where the lug and rounded case band merge together). Same springbars as a submariner. note: This watch has been worn a lot but not polished and the crystal looks good but I have polished it a couple times for the owner over the years. I doubt the polishing removed more than a few .00 mm. The original owner priced it to me for $750 years ago and I did not snatch it up. He will not sell it now and he has a goofball kid who will pawn it for $200 (or less) the day after he drops under the radar.
TeeJay Posted April 12, 2011 Report Posted April 12, 2011 Thanks all for the advice..i have informed Angus on the inaccuracies and hope he'll source and QC a better piece.. I know the mentioned issues can be sorted out with aftermarket parts but since Angus stated his as the best out of box, i'll put it to the test.. As the watch Angus showed you has drilled lugs, how about buying both his watch, the one I showed, and then performing a dial/movement transplant? Of course, if Angus can source you one which has the lugs drilled and a good dial (hopefully even with factory-applied Lume, as that'll save you a modification to do ) then go for it
justlounging Posted April 16, 2011 Author Report Posted April 16, 2011 Got 2nd round of QC pics for the 1655 and the dial and hands are now wrong.. bracelet is still wrong but at least the height of the crystal looks more accurate..
Dizzy Posted April 16, 2011 Report Posted April 16, 2011 No thats the right bracelet. Looks like the same one from Josh.
justlounging Posted April 16, 2011 Author Report Posted April 16, 2011 hmm the hollow bracelet is correct? ok..
Jkay Posted April 16, 2011 Report Posted April 16, 2011 This watch now looks exactly like the Jos (PC) model as it was originally released. I wonder why they are not offering you the latest updated dial. This watch is available in aged dial and bright white dial.
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