Pentax1 Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Hi To all just sent Funds to Concepta Any ideas were to find good strap and buckle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klockis Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 I have the same watch Get a rep Top Gun (V2) kevlar strap and a rep IWC buckle or deployment. Look great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joedoe Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Think you should delete the part where you say how much it costed, in my opinion its between buyer and concepta!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pentax1 Posted April 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 I hope i am not offending anyone as i am new here and older on some other forum But i think that posting the price should not be an issue and neither a secret unless there are different prices for different members then it is an issue ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pentax1 Posted April 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 (edited) I have the same watch Get a rep Top Gun (V2) kevlar strap and a rep IWC buckle or deployment. Look great! klockis are you happy with your 3717? do you have a topgun? how would you rate it as a Rep? Edited April 25, 2011 by Pentax1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klockis Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 I love the 3717 I dont have a Top Gun, just order the strap from my dealer when getting some other watches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pentax1 Posted April 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Thanks for the Info K Who is your dealer, because I am interested in getting a buckle and Strap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobster Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 It's funny how before the TopGun, people rarely even thought about putting the Kevlar Strap on, but now it's THE killer combo! Congrats on your order, I think PureTime may sell the strap and buckle separately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=5625025&rid=0 Since you mentioned the price.... I do not know, when you can get a gen for that and probably talk him down a little more. You are talking about difference of 600-700 dollars or so. Where are your guys breaking points when it comes to price vs gen price? Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concepta Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=5625025&rid=0 Since you mentioned the price.... I do not know, when you can get a gen for that and probably talk him down a little more. You are talking about difference of 600-700 dollars or so. Where are your guys breaking points when it comes to price vs gen price? Just curious. ...still a used watch against a spanking brand new..and without a sales receipt! Try to find a brand new for that price! These are not red flagged or grey marked in any way! *edit..don´t bring it to a AD without being honest about the watch having been assembled with spare parts* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denverbass79 Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Would that really work, Concepta? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concepta Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Would that really work, Concepta? They can see it is a watch with correct serial nr on case and movement, but you must be honest about it being assembled from spare parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillycheez Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Yes..they will probably charge you about 50 USD / 40€ for it..but yes That is freaking awesome. Thank you concepta! Still patiently waiting for mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi717 Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 That is freaking awesome. Thank you concepta! Still patiently waiting for mine. +1 I have sent a PM and am waiting for a response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 The original poster did not indicate this is a gen watch with serial numbers. I assumed it was an assembled watch. Its just a straight IWC assembled watch from IWC? ...still a used watch against a spanking brand new..and without a sales receipt! Try to find a brand new for that price! These are not red flagged or grey marked in any way! Just walk in to a AD and have them issue a certificate of authenticity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornerstone Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 The original poster did not indicate this is a gen watch with serial numbers. I'm also confused on this front. If it's capable of legitimately receiving a certificate of authenticity, why sell it as anything less? Is the case genuine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pentax1 Posted April 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 According to the Seller All parts are Gen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 I have been around the rep game for a while and have some gens also. I have many friends who have gens and are skeptical or negative towards reps. I always tell them most people who are interested in high end reps are in it for the love of watches and because they like to tinker with them. Not for any dishonest reasons such as misrepresenting themselves or the watches they build or buy. A genuine watch is a culmination of research and development, high quality parts and assembly by what each companies considers expert craftsman. If I am reading correctly Concepta is suggesting or saying you can take the watch his watch maker(no disrespect to that person) assembled from gen parts he has collected and have them issue a certificate of authenticity. That is dishonest and disgusting and undermines everything honest people do here. The watch is not deserving of a certificate of authenticity unless it has been assembled by IWC by their craftsman. Not only would IWC agree but they would take legal action otherwise. So to the original poster, enjoy a fantastic watch but please do not approach an AD about getting a certificate of authenticity. Shame on you Concepta, if you are going to use the IWC forum for a sales corner at least respect the few things that keep reps for us a somewhat honest pursuit when not exploited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 I hope i am not offending anyone as i am new here and older on some other forum But i think that posting the price should not be an issue and neither a secret unless there are different prices for different members then it is an issue ... +1 and there should not be a price difference at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillycheez Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 So does that mean if I buy a gen iwc from an AD and get it serviced by a local watchsmith it does not deserve to have an issue of authenticity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 Really? That's your argument? So if you bought a watch on timezone that you later found out had a certificate of authenticity that was obtained by lying to an AD and was assembled with gen parts by a local watchmaker(no matter how skilled) who's primary business is reps you would be ok with that? A serviced(IWC or locally) genuine IWC watch with have a serial number that is traceable at IWC back to a production date along with who made it. An assembled watch serial will lead back to a caseback that went missing from the factory or from a previously worked on watch. I know that most of you will stand up for Concepta and certainly not publicly agree with me, you guys still want those nice gen parts after all. I understand that. What he wrote about above is not right and it is not honest and that's my opinion and I do not care how many gen parts I lose access to saying it. So does that mean if I buy a gen iwc from an AD and get it serviced by a local watchsmith it does not deserve to have an issue of authenticity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillycheez Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 (edited) That wasn't an counterargument ... You proceed to imply anybody who decides to get an issue of authenticy that they will do the immoral thing and sell it.... why make such an assumption? There's a lot of grey area and I understand your concern. I've read the same controversy over the watchco sm300s. Anyways, this reminds be of somebody who thought our dealers should stop selling rep boxes and papers. The mere fact that I CAN get an issue of authenticity is more peace of mind that concepta did what he said... make an ALL gen iwc. Edited April 27, 2011 by phillycheez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillycheez Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 (edited) Double post Edited April 27, 2011 by phillycheez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concepta Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 1. Thanks Chad for the kind words....AGAIN! 2. I NEVER EVER encourage ANYONE to try to emphasize any of my projects as official IWC made/built watches! Let this be told..once and for all..never ever ever try to fool someone by telling them it´s a "standard" watch with lost papers etc. These projects are assembled by a certified watch technician..not by a standard watch wiz..like Domi, The Zigmeister or any other of our amazing modders! This technician works with these watches everyday and i honestly believe that there is NO, ZERO, NONE difference between this assembling and that in the "official" way! You are indicating that these parts somehow has got "lost" from the factory and/or is used service parts. This is not true! There is a BIG difference between having official papers, receipts with warranties etc that you get from a normal transaction with a AD, and that of one of these projects! This is also why there is a major price difference (compared to buying a brand new gen). All parts in these projects are brand new, that´s why i am comparing it to a price for a new! Anyway...to be certain this is not used by anyone with the intent to try to fool someone else..i will edit my post about going to AD. I am sorry for the confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 1. Thanks Chad for the kind words....AGAIN! 2. I NEVER EVER encourage ANYONE to try to emphasize any of my projects as official IWC made/built watches! Let this be told..once and for all..never ever ever try to fool someone by telling them it´s a "standard" watch with lost papers etc. These projects are assembled by a certified watch technician..not by a standard watch wiz..like Domi, The Zigmeister or any other of our amazing modders! This technician works with these watches everyday and i honestly believe that there is NO, ZERO, NONE difference between this assembling and that in the "official" way! You are indicating that these parts somehow has got "lost" from the factory and/or is used service parts. This is not true! There is a BIG difference between having official papers, receipts with warranties etc that you get from a normal transaction with a AD, and that of one of these projects! This is also why there is a major price difference (compared to buying a brand new gen). All parts in these projects are brand new, that´s why i am comparing it to a price for a new! Anyway...to be certain this is not used by anyone with the intent to try to fool someone else..i will edit my post about going to AD. I am sorry for the confusion. Only when you edit your original post will you have "NEVER EVER encourage ANYONE to try to emphasize any of my projects as official IWC made/built watches!" You are right about one thing. I am sure they will be exceptional pieces assembled by qualified craftsman but I still stand by what I wrote as do a few others that emailed me today that prefer to remain anonymous. Do i recommend anyone hesitate purchasing from you? Of course not but what you wrote was not right especially when many of your customers are new to the hobby. P.S. I saw this on repgeek this morning. You are telling people there they can and should take these watches to service centers and or appraisers to have them certified as gen. I wonder how many of these piece will end up in the hands of someone who does not know what they are getting in the future. Your claim of "2. I NEVER EVER encourage ANYONE to try to emphasize any of my projects as official IWC made/built watches!" is an outright lie. I am disgusted. Originally Posted by concepta Service centers or appraisers. These are not "redmarked" parts...it´s all legit! Buyer: I am in the process of making my 3717 a gen by getting parts from Concepta, once the watch has 100% gen parts are you saying its ok to go to an AD for valuation. I only ask as I will need a valuation for insurance purposes as all my genuines are insured. Its always better to check before hand and it will take a while before I get the gen case and movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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