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25-703 question


Eiderdaus

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Hi,

was wondering if there are different models of 703 crowns ? Could it be that 703 crowns for vintage look different than for modern ?

this is my gen 16610 cron (modern)

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this is the gen crown on my wm9 v3 lv

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and this is a gen crown i have since a few months

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they all look the same. But now i have received two crowns that are declared to be gen.

the first one

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I was really irritated and was close to open a dispute as i thought the 3 dots are an indicator to be wrong.

but today i received another crown

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and it looks the same way

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now my question, is there a difference in vintage and modern 703 crowns ?

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the fatter coronet is for 1665-1680-5513 and 16800 service replacement 703s

but also fit the modern subs like the 14060, 16610 since all the crowns use the 703 system despite being intended for different models based on time period. many sellers just consider all 703s for all watches that accept the 703 crown. purists will say no. and so would i. modern sub, modern coronet style. but the good news is you can always sell them here and people would buy them.

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The taller coronets (crowns) are the older vintage ones. They are still 24-703's. The squatter crowns are newer. The taller ones would be appropriate for a 5513, 1665, 1680 and a 16800- and would be service crowns in the case of the 5513, 1665, and 1680 since these all came with 24-702 or earlier model crowns originally.

Early 16800's may have also come with the 24-702 crown and tube assembly, but both of mine have the 24-703 crown and tube with the tall coronet.

Rolex could care less and swaps out crowns and tubes fairly regularly when servicing a sub. So a squat crown on an old watch is just fine as far as Rolex is concerned- that's what they have available.

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So is it 'safe' to say:

24-703 "Original" w/Crimped construction w/bigger crown closer dots to crown.

24-703 "Monoblock" aka 704 w/dots appearing further away.

As such, if you sent ANY Trip-Lock Submariner in for service to a RSC today, it would comeback with a 24-7034 Monoblock and supporting tube?

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I have still yet to see a "703" crown with a crimped construction and modern style coronet. All of the ones I have seen with the modern coronet have the monobloc construction. I did have a 5513 serviced by RSC a couple of years ago and it came back with a 703 crown and tube. I would think they would use the correct period crown as long as supplies allow.

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So is it 'safe' to say:

24-703 "Original" w/Crimped construction w/bigger crown closer dots to crown.

24-703 "Monoblock" aka 704 w/dots appearing further away.

No, there's the tall crown and the squat crown, tall is vintage, both are 24-703. Both are the 'wrapped' construction

Monobloc is 24-704. It also fits the 24-7030 tube. I've seen the 704 crown used on the YM and Daytonas, but I think the 703 is still used on the subs and other tool watches, but maybe the 704 is being used on everything at this point.

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Hey Alligoat,

Do you have a picture of the squat coronet crown with a wrapped construction. I have been looking for one for a long time but have yet to see one. If you do that would be great!!! The crown on my gen Sea-Dweller has the squat crown, but doesn't have the crimped construction. It is original and has not been serviced. All of the references I have say that it should have a 703 crown, but they list the 704 as monobloc. Thanks!!!

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@ omgiv,

I don't have a pic of the squat 703 coronet, but the one in freddy's pic sure looks squat to me.

There was a discussion here about a year ago or so on this subject. I can check tonight, I have both. My 1680, and two 16800's have tall 703 coronets- all my reps w/ gen crowns have the squat 703's.

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The older 703 crowns have the coronet of the 702. The reference is also 24-703 like the modern ones. Tube is 24-703-0. 1680, 5513 and 1665 used them. A friend gives his 1680 last year to a revision. I thought they will mount the 703 with the new coronet (tube was also replaced), but I was wrong. Because I thought they are not available anymore...

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