redwatch Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 I have a crown & tube set here that I found in my parts bin. Pretty positive that they are gen, but I can't tell if it's supposed to be a 702 or 703? Of course I could use the search function, but since it is limited to needing more than three characters it's hard to search for 703 and come up with something useful. I have taken several pics of the crown & tube. Experts.... can you tell me what these are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Red- You actually have what's termed as a '704' monobloc crown with a 7030 tube. Below are a 702(L) and 703®: Essentially, both are of a wrapped style, where you have the core crown that is wrapped in an SS shell. You can see the crimping at the inner edge of the crown/serrations. The 702 is an older style 'Triplock'- It is missing the exterior gasket on the tube, and is instead flanged at the end like so: As such, the threading for the crown goes all the way to the opening. The 703 has the exterior gasket on the tube and hence only has threading that goes to the halfway point on the interior of the crown. This is to clear the gasket. Both crowns have long style coronets, whereas the 704 monobloc has the short, squat coronet like you have. 704: Hope this helps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted August 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Red- You actually have what's termed as a '704' monobloc crown with a 7030 tube. Now what one earth would that have been used for? I was wondering why the shaft diameter of the crown was so much thicker than any other crown/tube set I had here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Looks just like the Gen that I have for the Sub project. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Now what one earth would that have been used for? I was wondering why the shaft diameter of the crown was so much thicker than any other crown/tube set I had here! Well, the 704 crown supercedes the 703- It fits the 7030 tube just fine (as it's meant to). I used to consider these to be just newer 703's because of this, but I now feel that the 704 term is more appropriate (justasgood provided education on this). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Now what one earth would that have been used for? I was wondering why the shaft diameter of the crown was so much thicker than any other crown/tube set I had here! Just saw the 704 monoblock like in Ubi's pic on the watch (dots farther away) on a BRAND NEW 14060M @ Ben Bridge Jewelers. I am guessing RSC will be moving onto these on future sub service. They are backwards compatible with the 703 tubes. Here is the same on my 1680 build: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted August 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Well, the 704 crown supercedes the 703- It fits the 7030 tube just fine (as it's meant to). I used to consider these to be just newer 703's because of this, but I now feel that the 704 term is more appropriate (justasgood provided education on this). So is there a difference between the 7030 tube and the 703? Just saw the 704 monoblock like in Ubi's pic on the watch (dots farther away) on a BRAND NEW 14060M @ Ben Bridge Jewelers. I am guessing RSC will be moving onto these on future sub service. They are backwards compatible with the 703 tubes. I have a gen 703 tube & crown on my noobmariner and this crown does not fit at all. The shaft diameter is bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Really good information. I love this forum! Still in the search for the 702 crown and tube. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 So is there a difference between the 7030 tube and the 703? I have a gen 703 tube & crown on my noobmariner and this crown does not fit at all. The shaft diameter is bigger. 24-7030-0 is just the p/n for the tube that goes with the 24-703 crown. The 7030 tube (and aftermarket 7030 tubes) should fit the '704' crown just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 I have a gen 703 tube & crown on my noobmariner and this crown does not fit at all. The shaft diameter is bigger. Are you sure you don't have a BK Crown/Tube on the noob? That would explain it. Same with some of the MBW stuff. I have a Clark "Gen Spec" 703 tube here, that will accept both a crimped 703 Crown and a Monoblock 704... ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted August 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Are you sure you don't have a BK Crown/Tube on the noob? That would explain it. Same with some of the MBW stuff. I have a Clark "Gen Spec" 703 tube here, that will accept both a crimped 703 Crown and a Monoblock 704... ??? Well now I am not so sure It was sold to me as having a gen 703 crown & tube. Upon checking it, it is definitely not gen Oh well, I guess the 704 and 7030 would work well for something else. Maybe I'll install them into my 14060 from JMB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted August 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Actually, upon further investigation, I was mistaken (thank goodness I keep a record of each purchase that I made!). This particular noob sub that I am rebuilding did NOT come with a gen crown and tube. It was a different sub that I sold a while back. It was a euromariner and it had a ton of mods done to it. Thanks for the input folks! It was sure helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 What has already not been mentioned is the easiest way to tell a 702 from a 703. It's the cooooool factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 I could use the search function, but since it is limited to needing more than three characters it's hard to search for 703 and come up with something useful. Google search with the magic keywords site:www.rwgforum.com and your search will be limited to this web site only. Use as few characters as you wish For instance ... site:www.rwgforum.com 703 702 difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted August 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Google search with the magic keywords site:www.rwgforum.com and your search will be limited to this web site only. Use as few characters as you wish For instance ... site:www.rwgforum.com 703 702 difference Thanks J. I actually know that trick as well, and while it does work, all I was able to find in the first two google pages was FS threads or WTB threads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted August 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Ok, I think I found a gen 703 tube in my collection of bits as well. Here's a comparison shot: 703 704 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Note distance between bottom of crown & dots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted August 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 Note distance between bottom of crown & dots Based on that info then, I believe I have a gen 702: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 That's a 703, Red. Yours has threads that stop mid-way to accomodate the gasket of a 7030. 702 has threads going all the way to the opening... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebzen02 Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 Yup.. Those are 702's! Now we know who has most..lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted August 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 That's a 703, Red. Yours has threads that stop mid-way to accomodate the gasket of a 7030. 702 has threads going all the way to the opening... Thanks R for the clarification! That makes sense then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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