peterpl Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Hi All, I have just recieved a watch and i'm unable to tell if this is a Genuwine Swiss ETA movement. I have been sold this watch as a Swiss ETA 2824-2 28800 bph movement and just want to confirm what I have paid for is what I have recieved. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/omega1p.jpg http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/omega2z.jpg http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/omega3.jpg http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/690/omega5z.jpg Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krpster Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Impossible to tell from those pictures I am afraid. Need to be able to see the shock spring on the balance. For that the pictures need to be much closer, higher resolution and in focus Also, there is now a new super-clone available with all the old tells corrected so now it is almost impossible to tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Sorry but you have to zoom in a lot more than that for us to answer your question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankt Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Chances are....Slim to none whatsoever.......And......Slim left town @ 3 yrs ago!!! New ETA movements in new replica watches are virtually nonexistent... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpl Posted September 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Oh Really? So what do I have then? Most likely an Asian ETA clone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Oh Really? So what do I have then? Most likely an Asian ETA clone? If you bought it from a trusted dealer and it was advertised as a real ETA piece, then 98% chance it's real. They are not here to rip people off, and get thrown off the forums. What he means is that ETA movements are most likely warehoused, and older .. not new from the swiss factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Chances are....Slim to none whatsoever.......And......Slim left town @ 3 yrs ago!!! New ETA movements in new replica watches are virtually nonexistent... Well there's a load of nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbh Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Check the part in the circle. On many, if not all clones, that portion is flat rather than curved. Just one way to spot the differences. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickdick Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Well there's a load of nonsense. No nonsense at all, Frank is talking about new eta's. Chances are slim indeed. Surplus recycled genuine ETA's or hybrids, possibly yes. Who knows the Selitas sold in replicas are in fact genuine? Back in 2004 old timer Klink claimed the chinese had eta copy's. Nobody took him serious and the claim was ridiculed by many. Couple of years later turns out he was right. Never assume anything in the rep game. Many if not most dealers are no watch movement experts and may be fooled themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 No nonsense at all, Frank is talking about new eta's. Yep, nonsense. There are several dealers offering new ETAs whose movements have been verified by more members than I could even begin to count. There are still lots of new ETAs out there - they are not rare, I could buy a hundred today from Ofrei, thousands from a wholesaler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krpster Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 ... I could buy a hundred today from Ofrei... That part actually is not true. His stock fluctuates greatly. In fact when I was looking for a new 2824 last year he had none. I had to wait for a few months until he was able to get stock again. He even told me himself that getting new complete movements was getting more difficult. So while they may not necessarily be rare, they are getting harder to come by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAHLER Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Check the part in the circle. On many, if not all clones, that portion is flat rather than curved. Just one way to spot the differences. interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchjunkie Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Kbh, that is a perfect tell help for us noobies. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klink Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 "Watch" what you want.. and know what exactly it is.. there is misinformation purposefully purported, and misinformation due to sloth, indolence and arrogance.. for the real deal, would one rely upon a forum of replica WIS gents who rely on others? Perhaps, yet a reliable way is to seek outside a rep forum. There is a world of information out there, some true, some not.. personal experience, knowledge and having pieces in had tell the tale. Unless one knows the exact source, the trail can go awry.. and where there is money to be made, will even a platoon of Ofreis spend the time in question the dollars they stand to gain? There is more to this story than reaches they hands and eyes of most consumers.. and the trade is world wide.. lol Life is Good! Klink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) I myself prefer to replace the rep movement with gen used eta movement from ebay for vintage watches i purchased 4 movements for 35usd shipped for me only way to guarantee gen movements , having said that i have purchased swiss eta reps and have had a few issues and purchased asian eta with no issues and keeping perfect time a few months ago i ordered a couple of ceramic rolex subs and went for the best swiss clone movements the one is perfect no issues keeps perfect time while the other has the famous clicking when winding by hand and very stiff crown also the movement was badly modded and damaged, the movement which is the heart of the watch is the only part not shown on so called QC photos i have had two times received a swiss eta watch with asian eta fitted we have to accept that these watches are replicas ! Edited October 23, 2013 by aeromatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Ive never wanted the ability to block so badly as right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klink Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Ive never wanted the ability to block so badly as right now. roflmao... perhaps not so much as what was said by Jkay, rather to have a similar feeling on other subjects.. The boat only floats with enough water, and the right wind pushing ahead.. Life is Good! (and thanks to Jkay!) K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martijnp Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Check the part in the circle. On many, if not all clones, that portion is flat rather than curved. Just one way to spot the differences. Great tip, thanks! I didn't know that either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Fleischer Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Yep, nonsense. There are several dealers offering new ETAs whose movements have been verified by more members than I could even begin to count. There are still lots of new ETAs out there - they are not rare, I could buy a hundred today from Ofrei, thousands from a wholesaler. John, actually I don't see many Swiss mov'ts offered anymore. The BP factory does, but they are not new and are probably Old recycled/hybrids. Most new Noob watches come with clone, SOMETIMES they have Swiss upgrades. But they are now super expensive, Check out Angus. (I've seen them for more than $200! Bk sells them but we're now in the $600-700 range for a Sub. That's why a number of people are going with Seikos, and lower priced Gens-IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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