chrgod Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 ** Edit: It is not a 3186 copy.** Puretime has launched a Gmt-master II with a clone 3186! http://www.puretimew...-2011-12-14-02/ Seems like the gmt-hand is at the bottom of the stack. No further details yet...
sneed12 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 Hmm. Now that's something I'm interested in.
rosnik Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 I find only: GMT-Master II 116710 LN A3186 Best Edition Based on ETA.
rosnik Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 Nice!!!!!!! this get us free from CHS problem!:-)
jmb Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 This looks to me like just another dressed up 2836...
MAHLER Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 is a eta rlx clone not a true rolex clone
sneed12 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 Yeah, from the pics it's just a dressed up ETA. Oh well.
rosnik Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 Yeah, from the pics it's just a dressed up ETA. Oh well. Yes it is......:-(
RWG Technical Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 That movement has been around for a long time... The "arm" on the right side is fake, it just sits there and looks like it connects to the balance cock...it doesn't... Asian 2836 copy with painted gears, and sadly I haven't seen any good GMT movements, some are ok, but none are good.
freddy333 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 It does have a balance bridge instead of the ETA's cock, which may be a step in the right direction. But definitely not a 100% clone of the Rolex.
RWG Technical Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 It does have a balance bridge instead of the ETA's cock, which may be a step in the right direction. But definitely not a 100% clone of the Rolex. We were probably writing at the same time. It's not a bridge at all, it's simply a stand alone piece screwed down to look like a bridge, it's in effect a double cock...
chrgod Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Posted December 14, 2011 Hmm, seems like I jumped too fast. The double bridge over the balance wheel and the engravings fooled me.. Sorry about that.
rosnik Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 That movement has been around for a long time... The "arm" on the right side is fake, it just sits there and looks like it connects to the balance [censored]...it doesn't... Asian 2836 copy with painted gears, and sadly I haven't seen any good GMT movements, some are ok, but none are good. Zigy, do you sow the SA3135 already ?
freddy333 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 It's not a bridge at all, it's simply a stand alone piece screwed down to look like a bridge, it's in effect a double cock... You lost me there, Zig? The balance appears to be held in place by a metal component that is attached to the plate at 2 points; with 2 screws (as opposed to a cock's 1 connection point, 1 screw). So, unless there is a standard cock hidden below the bridge, how is that not a bridge? Here is a Rolex bridge (fixed at 2 points, with 2 screws) Versus a standard balance cock (affixed to the pillar at a single point, with a single screw
sneed12 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 Freddy, in this pic the standard ETA balance [censored] is the one that's connected to the movement at the very top (12 o'clock in the pic). The second arm of the "bridge" that connects around 2 o'clock in the pic is fake. It's not connected to the [censored] at all, only to the plate. If you remove that screw the whole thing comes off. EDITED TO ADD: If I type balance c0ck it censors it. Weird
FxrAndy Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 We were probably writing at the same time. It's not a bridge at all, it's simply a stand alone piece screwed down to look like a bridge, it's in effect a double cock... Or in the case of the 2836 3135 clone a double cock up with bits falling off all the time. I am still waiting to see one of these new actual 3135 clones in the flesh or under ziggys lens
freddy333 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 Freddy, in this pic the standard ETA balance [censored] is the one that's connected to the movement at the very top (12 o'clock in the pic). The second arm of the "bridge" that connects around 2 o'clock in the pic is fake. It's not connected to the [censored] at all, only to the plate. If you remove that screw the whole thing comes off. Now I see what you (& Ziggy) mean - the circled piece is free-standing (not connected to the balance)
correctime Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) Patiently awaits the release of a clone 3186 (or 3185), CHS, capable of gen dial/hands and fitting a gen case. Edited December 14, 2011 by correctime
RWG Technical Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 Now I see what you (& Ziggy) mean - the circled piece is free-standing (not connected to the balance) You got it. This "modification" has been around for some time, I have seen a number of them and they are all the same, just like a cod piece, it's fake and does nothing at all...
sneed12 Posted December 15, 2011 Report Posted December 15, 2011 You got it. This "modification" has been around for some time, I have seen a number of them and they are all the same, just like a cod piece, it's fake and does nothing at all... I don't think that's fair, my cod piece is pretty awesome, the ladies like it and it protects my junk
mikellem Posted December 15, 2011 Report Posted December 15, 2011 I haven't' seen The Zigmeister miss yet! MM
Jkay Posted December 15, 2011 Report Posted December 15, 2011 The decorated ETA has 1 too many cocks, and is thus all cocked up. Watch out for flaking red gear paint floating around in your movements.
RWG Technical Posted December 15, 2011 Report Posted December 15, 2011 I don't think that's fair, my cod piece is pretty awesome, the ladies like it and it protects my junk I haven't even had my tea and I just read this. You realize of course that you have ruined my day, I believe I had a visual, or was that cockeyed...whatever...
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