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Pam 243 Sub 1000 Comparison


rolli

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Pam 243 Sub 1000 Comparison

with following pictures i show the detail-work and assessment of the 243 h-factory and noob factory.

also for comparison was a genuine 243L from a friend in my hand.

my final result is clear, the 243 h-factory is the better version and number one.

see the pictures below,

243 h-factory with the blue croc strap,

243 noob factory with the black rubber,

case:

h-factory: correct shape

noob factory: correct shape

bezel:

h-factory: correct shape and largeness, knurling has the right shape,

120 clicks and works very precise and smooth,

noob factory: not correct shape and largeness with wrong angle, knurling has a too much rounded shape,

with this bezel the watch has a wrong look, bezel 60 clicks and works rough,

bezel 5 minute steel marker:

h-factory: correct shape and largeness and on top the correct polishing, correct tallness on the bezel,

noob factory: not correct shape and largeness, they sit too far out of the bezel, and have a too much rounded polishing,

crown-guard and lever:

h-factory: correct shape with correct lever, the lever sits correct flush, the lever-finger-nose ( to open ) has a slightly different shape,

noob factory: correct shape, but the lever sits too deep in the crown-guard body, the lever-finger-nose ( to open ) has a slightly different shape,

caseback and engraving:

h-factory: correct shape with correct deep precise engraving,

noob factory: engraving is flat and not precise enough,

strap quick release bars:

h-factory: works fine

noob factory: works fine

dials and hands:

h-factory: looks correct

noob factory: looks correct

luminosity:

h-factory: super-lume, perfect strong

noob factory: non super-lume, weak

sapphire:

h-factory: clarity absolute top,

noob factory: clarity bad,

for me the 243 h-factory is with a large distance the number one.

i hope i could help for the right decision

enjoy

rolli

H-Factory:

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Noob-Factory:

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bezel: h-factory: correct shape and largeness, knurling has the right shape, 120 clicks and works very precise and smooth, noob factory: not correct shape and largeness with wrong angle, knurling has a too much rounded shape, with this bezel the watch has a wrong look, bezel 60 clicks and works rough, bezel 5 minute steel marker: h-factory: correct shape and largeness and on top the correct polishing, correct tallness on the bezel, noob factory: not correct shape and largeness, they sit too far out of the bezel, and have a too much rounded polishing,

I REALLY wish you could have shown bezel comparisons with the gen, what you describe contradicts what most have stated about the bezels?

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You say the dials are the same? Here's the comparison of all three (from the other comparison on RWG)... H-Factory on the Left, N-Factory in the Middle, Gen on the Right.

The thing that stand out to me the most is how thin the "6" is on the H-Factory versus the Gen. The Noob looks very close. The dial is a big thing to me, probably why I only own Frankens with Gen dials at this point... However, the Noob suffers from a few things, too, which have been reviewed over and over again... brushed CP, crystal inconsistency, lume not as strong, etc. Right now, I won't buy either one. If either factory ups their game and fixes these issues, I'll buy from that factory. If the H-Factory fixed their dial, I'd probably go that direction -- even with the other flaws (bezel and CG).

Draw your own conclusions.

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Different strokes I guess. I think the H Factory offers the best construction and looks more finished. Those that want to do heavy mods, deal with cloudy glass, markers falling off and loose bezels go Noob!

Big +1. And the dial differences on the wrist, not blown up in macro shots, is negligible.

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The 029m is what both of these factories should be shooting for at this point -- accuracy and overall fit and finish. Both factory's versions fall short...

H Factory -- at least fix your dial (size of numbers and semi gloss finish) and CG. I can live with the 120 clicks, I guess...

N Factory -- polish the CP, superlume the dial and make sure the crystal is on par with the H Factory.

I sincerely hope there are V2's of each -- H and N -- addressing their respective issues.

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  • 6 months later...

The 029m is what both of these factories should be shooting for at this point -- accuracy and overall fit and finish. Both factory's versions fall short...

H Factory -- at least fix your dial (size of numbers and semi gloss finish) and CG. I can live with the 120 clicks, I guess...

N Factory -- polish the CP, superlume the dial and make sure the crystal is on par with the H Factory.

I sincerely hope there are V2's of each -- H and N -- addressing their respective issues.

http://puretime.co/product/pam243-m-noob-maker-11-ultimate-edition-on-rubber-strap-v2-a7750-free-strap-tool/

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