correctime Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) These bezels from Eta swiss are really good!!! Really good but as BK said, appearantly too small for a gen insert to fit without a bit of modding. Fidhle007 built a Super Franken using the sean case. I wonder if he had to do the same filing of the insert OD if it's a variation in the bezel........? Edited March 3, 2012 by correctime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
its_urabus Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 I've got a Sean build going and I did not need to sand my insert to fit. It is with the watchsmith. I will post pics when it's back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giobo Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) Also Fidhle fitted the insert as like gen..Maybe they have some variations... Rsh also did in one long ago and it snapped like gen.. This is the first time i hear it..But BK knows what to do of course!!! Edited March 3, 2012 by giobo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 My luminova insert popped straight in BUT I have a flat-four tritium insert that won't fit and the Clark insert that everyone is all horny for just floats around inside and is too small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w.genzo Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Clark's insert floats around also in a gen bezel, it's not gen spec it's too small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bklm1234 Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) Here are the pics of the bezel on the ETASWISS sub I assembled. ETASWISS bezel, long teeth wm9 v3 bezel, shorter teeth ETASWISS bezel on the left/tottom, wm9 on the right/top. Teeth clearly longer on the ETASWISS. This ETASWISS bezel has smaller than gen diameter so gen insert has to be filed smaller to fit in it. So which is better? Nice long bezel teeth or correct bezel diameter? But you really don't know what you will get, do you? omgiv's has correct bezel diameter but not this one I got. That's frustrating. bk Edited March 6, 2012 by bklm1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 Well, I prefer the nice longer bezel teeth AND a proper fitting gen insert requiring no sanding/shaving....like on Fidhle's and its_urabus' bezel. Seems the typical inconsistencies prevail....yet again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
its_urabus Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 How much needs sanding? I'd rather sand the insert, as long as it's not too much. The short bezel teeth can be seen instantly. A bezel that's .05mm smaller? Good luck eagle eyes Thanks for the post BK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 If the difference is only a few thousandths why not machine the recess in the bezel a hair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Anyone try a 14060 insert instead of the 16610? (Can't rememeber which is smaller)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Wow a lot of info here. This is a great read seeing how I may swap out my case for a TC. Really want to drop a gen dial hands and 3135 one day and sadly TW won't accept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bklm1234 Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 I finished filing the gen insert to fit on the Sean (shorter) bezel. Not bad. Not cutting to the numbers, very acceptably and unnoticeable. I did file the retaining ring and the back of the insert because they were rubbing each other. I'll take pics. bk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 I popped my gen insert out the other day and it looks like I did file it, I forgot I did. It's barely enough to remove the paint though but it is smaller then the flat-four insert... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bklm1234 Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 pics of gen insert already fitted on the Sean/ETASWISS case I trimmed the insert to a tight snap-on, no glue needed. Notice no cutting to the numbers on the insert. So not bad even trimming was needed. 2 more pics to illustrate the nice long teeth of this slightly undersized bezel ring. If you can be assured you can get this particular bezel, go for it. It surely beats any rep bezels I have seen bk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 What a difference that made...so it seems like 2 sean cases are never the same as far as consistency is concerned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macjulivert Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Bk1234, since you say you sold me this Rolex? By the way, although I have not received the Crystal Clark. As soon as I get control it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_189 Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 So bezels aside who has the more accurate case? TC or Sean? Will either fit a 3035? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 So bezels aside who has the more accurate case? TC or Sean? Will either fit a 3035? I don't think so. Both are spun off a case designed for the 3135 The 3035 mvt is thicker . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_189 Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Hey guys I got in contact with Sean and he says his non lug hole case can take a 3035?? Anyone have any input? I thought this wasn't possible also does it affect the cases look because of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck5533 Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 I don't think so. Both are spun off a case designed for the 3135 The 3035 mvt is thicker . listen to correctime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_189 Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 I believe correcttime but Sean himself said the case would fit a 3035 anyway all good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck5533 Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 I did have a similar doubt when I posted exactly same questions some time ago. The experts here told me as what correctime mentioned. I do not know the stem position for 3135 and 3035, but one thing I do know is the height of these 2 movements are different. Do you have a gen 3035? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_189 Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Unfortunately I don't have a Gen 3035 to try with but I thought it would be a cheaper option than a Gen 3135. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Thanks for the comps guys but I'm a newbie too. I'd be interested in learning where the Sean case makes the extra depth/height to accept a 3035. It looks to me as though the 3035 designed cases get the needed room by a shallower rehaut and a deeper, more concaved case back. It plain to see the sean case has a gen acurrate 16610 depth of the rehaut. How is the inside of the case back cut ?? Or will a sean case even accept a 3035 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) I've did some looking and asking around. Based on my findings I'd say if I were going to build a Super Franken, non-holed 16610 using a gen mvt and dial I'd opt for a Sean case with gen bezel assembly. While a gen dial will fit the TC case, it seems the dial opening in the sean case is exact for the gen dial. (that makes for an easier install and a more secure dial) It's safe to say that if you're going with a gen mvt. you'd go all gen everything with the exception of the mid case. Expensive build (no doubt) but it would certainly be a one of a kind and it sounds like a very fun and gratifying project. To me a build like that with everything gen but the case would essentially BE a gen. But that's just what I would do.....IF I could afford to....which I can't. A build like that would mean more to me than any gen I could buy. It's all about the journey, my Brother......not the destination (though the destination "would" be very rewarding. Please do keep us posted on your choice and progress. Edited August 10, 2012 by correctime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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