bklm1234 Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 There are sub, YM, and Exp2 reps in gen construction. There was never a GMT II 16710 in gen construction. Just when I planned to do a gen style GMT II 16710 using the noobfactory Exp2 case and wm9 bezel assembly, the noobfactory terminated production of both the GMT II and Exp2. Sneed12 had the same idea and did one with the noobfactory Exp2 I believe. With the new SL'd 40mm Exp2, it's possible to make an awesome gen style GMT II 16710 case again. It's even easier than using the noobfactory Exp2. Stick a utility razor blade between the Exp2 bezel and the case Pound on the razor blade with a mallet to open a gap The bezel comes off, usually together with the crystal and gasket. Use a crystal press to push the crystal down and off the bezel. Don't push the crystal off from below. That ruins the gasket and possibly break the little ridge on the underside of the crystal Now you have the bare case Notice gen style crystal has an interlocking ridge on the underside Here's the part why this case is easier to make a gen style GMT II case than the noobfactory Exp2 case You can just get a 2.35mm crystal gasket and install the crystal and retaining ring. The TW sub bezel assembly is perfect for this project. With a Clark bi-directional click spring, the bezel turns both directions like a GMT II bezel should Snap on a JewelryOutlet990 pepsi insert. CGs was trimmed. Voila, a gen style, high quality GMT II 16710. Perfect fit, perfect crystal height. Very easy. bk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rymeister Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Looks great bk, thanks for putting the effort in and sharing with us. Ry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Wow, that's great BK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Sapphire-lensed GMTs are not my specialty, so excuse me if I am wrong, but are the bezel fonts supposed to be serifed on the 16710? Otherwise, great pics & write-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 ... Stick a utility razor blade between the Exp2 bezel and the case Pound on the razor blade with a mallet to open a gap ... nice! i see you already got a band aid on there from your first attempt with that razor blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utheman Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Sapphire-lensed GMTs are not my specialty, so excuse me if I am wrong, but are the bezel fonts serifed on the 16710? Otherwise, great pics & write-up. Good question. I found this on the Rolex forum.... http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=64962 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zeleni kukuruz Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Whats the thiknes of this case? Anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillincontrol Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 just like to know what movement would be use. 2893-2 (180/90/150/25 $280) or 2836-2 with five extra wheels (90/150/25/215 $180) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Sapphire-lensed GMTs are not my specialty, so excuse me if I am wrong, but are the bezel fonts serifed on the 16710? Otherwise, great pics & write-up. No, they're not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 just like to know what movement would be use. 2893-2 (180/90/150/25 $280) or 2836-2 with five extra wheels (90/150/25/215 $180) The hand sizes you post seem to be of a CHS 2836-2....?? Are they making one that's dependable these days?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Very Cool. Thanks for the great write up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillincontrol Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 The hand sizes you post seem to be of a CHS 2836-2....?? Are they making one that's dependable these days?? i dont know. I do buy parts from this ebay guy. like hands and custom blake dials that he gets for me. http://www.ebay.com/itm/220963229612?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_2428wt_1188 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bklm1234 Posted March 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 (edited) @highoeyazmuhudee: the band aid is from polishing another case. This is a high risk hobby indeed. @freddy333: The bezel numbers have gone through a few fonts. One is like what you posted. Another is non serif like on my gen 16710, which is similar to the JO insert's on this sample. The JO insert's number are too tall though and number 12 isn't centered. It's quite an ok insert for $10. @ZK: I haven't measured the thickness of the case. It looks quite correct next to my gen 16710. One interesting thing about the bezel: gen 16710 bezel is actually thinner than gen 16610 sub bezel (~2.86mm). But all gen style sub rep bezels, including TW sub, TC/wm9, ETASwiss, are thinner (~2.64mm to ~2.74mm) than gen sub bezel. So using any one of these bezel assemblies is not far off from gen 16710. bk Edited March 22, 2012 by bklm1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zeleni kukuruz Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Thanks bk for the info! Looks great and this is very very intresting! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Great write up! Thanks bk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 I really don't need more projects. Honest I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiyal Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Awesome ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 I really don't need more projects. Honest I don't. Haha your already confused on who to pay!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Damn phone app its at fault E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zeleni kukuruz Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Will this be somthing that you will offer bk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 With the new SL'd 40mm Exp2, it's possible to make an awesome gen style GMT II 16710 case again. It's even easier than using the noobfactory Exp2. Can anyone tell me where I can get this case? Can I get it with lug holes? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpz5142 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 I have some cash that is just demanding to be spent on a watch, but this would be the first mod/project to work on. I figure I could attempt to swap the bezel out myself but not certain I should attempt a dial swap yet. If I wanted to work on a project like this but did not want to spend the cash on a gen GMT II dial, where could I get a good rep GMT II dial? I figue that if I needed to, I could sport the EXP dial with the GMT bezel until I am able to find a good dial. Also, If I get the Clark's bezel/retainer for a 16610 plus an insert for a GMT II would that work? I know I would need to get a click spring for the GMT that would be bi-directional, would I be able to use the tension/friction washer from a 16610? Thanks in advance for the response! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monito1975 Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 What about an original dial? i have one I woul like to know id the diameter and date alignment are correct for Both ETA movements? BK is offering a EXP2 40 mm I suppose it is the one we are talking about? Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyphion Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 @ JPZ and Monito I asked these same questions, and ended up just buying a MBK setup. Comes with everything except the movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monito1975 Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 MBK ? Which is what setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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