m.and Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 A gen eta 2836-2 fits perfect in that case. With a raffles ring. I'm very upset because after reshaping the lugs and fitting the TC v3 perfectly. The Clark's bezel pops off the insert. Same thing with a gen. 90% done! But couldn't take it on the trip. So to clarify, does a Raffles movement ring fit in a Startime 16610 case with a 2836 movement? If so, which ring? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 So to clarify, does a Raffles movement ring fit in a Startime 16610 case with a 2836 movement? If so, which ring? Thanks. It seems that way. I'd like to know which of Raffles rings will do the job too. Which ring is it "E" ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 The 2836 is too thick for the Sean case, you need a 2824 or 2892 to line up the stem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.and Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) The 2836 is too thick for the Sean case, you need a 2824 or 2892 to line up the stem. Pardon my ignorance, but which one is the Sean case? I was hoping to be able to use one of Raffle's rings in one of the Startime cases. Either this one or this one. Fidhle007, I completely forgot to get back to you about the movement ring because I got sidetracked with another project that isn't going the way I want, so I'm back to this case. It sounds like Ephry73 fit a 2836 into the $170 Startime case with one of Raffle's movement rings. If this is the case then that would be great. Another quick question for anyone that might know. Do both of the cases I linked to have drilled lugs? Edited August 17, 2012 by m.and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Oops, I read "Sean," not "StarTime." The 2836 should fit in the 16800 case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) Oops, I read "Sean," not "StarTime." The 2836 should fit in the 16800 case. Edited August 17, 2012 by correctime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) I might politely add that it may prolong the availability of these particular cases if the name isn't mentioned and links to his site aren't posted on any of the rep Forums. A simple google search by him can reveal alot.... and he'll pull the plug....he "doesn't" share our enthusiasm where rep building is concerned He really doesn't care for the rep world at all...................just sayin'. Edited August 17, 2012 by correctime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.and Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) Yes, and to clarify and provide some direct links, is it: This ring or this ring? If one of these rings fits in one of these cases without modification I would be so happy. Edited August 17, 2012 by m.and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.and Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 I might politely add that it may prolong the availability of these particular cases if the name isn't mentioned or links to his site posted on any of the Forums. A simple google search by him and he'll pull the plug....he doesn't share our enthusiasm where rep building is concerned ........just sayin'. Makes sense. I removed the links to the site in my most recent post, but I am unable to remove the links from my previous post. And PM sent to you correctime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Makes sense. I removed the links to the site in my most recent post, but I am unable to remove the links from my previous post. And PM sent to you correctime. That's very cool of you Brother. I certainly wasn't directing that at anyone in particular...it's not like there haven't been several Threads or posts naming that particular case over the past few years. It just stands to reason that the more it's mentioned the greater the risk of someone saying the wrong thing to him...it's bound to happen sooner or later PM received and returned. Thanks Brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneed12 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 The 2836 is too thick for the Sean case, you need a 2824 or 2892 to line up the stem. And the 2824 just barely works. 2892 is really a better bet, the extra 0.3mm makes a big difference. Remember you have to leave a bit of space under the dial for the DWO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Just got back to the states. Unfortunately I have to take new pictures of the setup as my wife got the gopro in the water by accident. The startime case WILL work with an Asian or gen 2836-2 and the raffles time movement ring for the 2836. There are no numbers for them but I'll measure. I used the startime crystal ring holder and the Clark's bezel. No issues there tighter fit of the bezel. The gen insert fell out while I was using it around the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Pictures of the current project. The case was softened by me. Had to open up the lug holes a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Does anyone have pictures of the 16800 case and its rehaut if they still offer it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Ephry, that looks fantastic! Details? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Thanks Fidhle. Basics for now(I will post a full build with more details when I get the gen parts sorted): ST 3035 case(Softened, lugs re-drilled for better fit. Repolished and aged case) ST crystal retainer, click spring and bezel and gen spring washer Gen 16800 insert and pearl(Pearl was switched to SL to match the TC dial) Gen 2836-2 with TC V2 DWO TC 16610 SL Dial and hands BK movement adapter Gen 703 Crimped crown and Gen tube Clark's crystal (2mm with 3mm, but switched to a 2.85mm gasket later) Gen 2mm spring bars 93150 bracelet, with correct clasp markings, etc... with aftermarket 501B end links(End links had to be reworked and reshaped to work as these are WSO units--I know I know) in the picture the end links are actually 285 gen ones from my 5514 parts bin that I used to wear the watch. TC V3 93250 bracelet to alternate Fully water proofed and tested now goot to just past 4 ATM(If I can get a bigger container/pump I can definitely go past it, although diving the watch has gone to 47' max after changing the crystal gasket) Once I get my gen dial and movement setup sorted i will transfer the TC parts and movement to a BK case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 That's a great looking watch E! Congrats. Now i need to get going on mine and finsih it (same ST3035 case) @Dizzy- as you can see, Ephry used the 16800 case- rehaut is decent- along the lines of the old model noobmariner subs, but with a gen-like bezel assembly and a Clark's crystal, the look is spot on to a gen- like the Euros, WM9 and TW best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ylfig Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Now I'm wondering if I should get the startime 16800 case for my 16610/16800 hybrid (the one we talked about Alligoat). What do you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Do it Y! Just let's keep the name of ST as ST for respect of others and google hacks. I'm getting paranoid as [censored] now. So if we can name this case the ST3035 or for the other one the ST3135 I think we could be a little safer lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 You know Ylfig, if that's a WM9 case or TW best, I'd stick with what you've got- it's got lugholes which look fine and the 'Swiss Made' dial is later anyway. Even if you put a tritium dial in there, you could call it an early 16610- I've seen the earliest 16610s with the open 6/9 datewheels like the 16800s- maybe ran for a year or so and Rolex changed to the closed 6/9s. Now days even a replacement DW for a 3035 movt has closed 6/9s. And a 3035 DW turns one direction and the 3135 goes the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ylfig Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) E: I for some reason can´t edit that post so if an ADMIN sees this and can help out that would be great. I think it has something to do with me posting it on Tapatalk on the phone. AG: I believe it´s a Sean case (but it really is a mystery). The thing is that it is basically mostly gen except the case (which still could be anyways). It has a gen 3035 in it so I kind of want to have it as a "16800". Unless someone has a 3135 they want to trade for a 3035 Edited October 17, 2012 by Ylfig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 AG: I believe it´s a Sean case (but it really is a mystery). The thing is that it is basically mostly gen except the case (which still could be anyways). It has a gen 3035 in it so I kind of want to have it as a "16800". Since you've got a 3035 in there Ylfig, I would work on a correct dial- like a relumed tritium dial and hands and call it a 16800. Or you could even go with the Yuki 16800 matte dial and hands. Swapping to a ST3035 case isn't going to really be any better than the case you have right now. Now if you were to happen upon a used gen 16800 case, that would be a different matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 +1 on Alligoat. If you must have lug holes, you can always have someone drill them and save some money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Does the ST case have any numbers in between the lugs, or is it sterile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ylfig Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 I've thought of that but as this is a gen dial and technically could have been a service replacement on a 16800 (correct me if I'm wrong) I don't really see that as that pressing. Unless I find a gen 16800 mid case and back of course. I found one a couple of months back but it was just too much at the time. Kind of wish I had bought it now though. With regards to the 16610 vs 16800 case - is there any real difference in the mid case other than the rehaut depth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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