5513 the ultimate expression?

[dieselpower]

I have become besotted with the 5513. So much so that I gots to thinkin'. Is this watch the ultimate expression of the Rolex companies output? Lets look at what it is:

It is:

a) Almost perfect in the simplicity of its appearance.

b )Robust

c) Timeless in its appeal.

d) Iconic - it has been copied by many manufacturers, indeed it has become the 'standard' in layout of divers watches.

e) Technically unsurpassed.

f) Classless, everyone from a brick layer to a Lord can own one if they put their minds to it.

There are probably more points but you get my drift. It's like the Morris Mini Minor or the E type jaguar, a damn near perfect expression of what it sets out to be.

Do you agree?

[Utheman]

If you are a vintage Rolex fan(atic), how could one not agree?

I totally agree!

[freddy333]

Yes, which is why Rolex has sold so many Subs for so many decades to so many people. Great watch.

[dluddy]

Agreed

[bwhitesox]

Agree but only if it has matching hands

[Eton]

Spot on!

[woof*]

I don't know, I always thought it was the 5512

[dieselpower]

@ woof* - Too many words on the dial, unnecessary

[Watchmeister]

I am with Woof on this one. The 5513 is the baseline sub but the 5512 is the rare iconoclast and the true "McQueen" Rolex (the one he actually wore while racing). Own a '66 and will never let it go.

[alligoat]

Either way, 5512 or 5513, they're both great! And of course, we can build replicas of them which are almost as good for 1/10th of the price!

[cc33]

Both nice, I'm partial to the 5512, if I had an extra 8k lying around I would be buying this one, from network54... I like that the insert looks creamy, I've never seen that before.

[highoeyazmuhudee]

the 5513 is the ultimate every mans watch

[relaxman]

Sold my 5512 meters first that I had restored by Bob Ridley several years ago and I kick myself every time I think about it .. Bought it for $2500 and sold it for almost 9k when the market was hot

[mjmj]

Agreed! I am wearing a 5512 now and it always amazes me on its simple beauty..

[Smqsub]

They are both lovely.

But the 5512 has that bit extra.

Sent from the dark side of the moon.

[polexpete]

Sold my 5512 meters first that I had restored by Bob Ridley several years ago and I kick myself every time I think about it .. Bought it for $2500 and sold it for almost 9k when the market was hot

9k ! don't kick yourself too hard and make sure you wearing your Gucci loafers when you do

[polexpete]

Totally agree ... i built this early glossy dial version but sold it to a good home. But not for 9k

Cheers

P.

[Watchmeister]

9k ! don't kick yourself too hard and make sure you wearing your Gucci loafers when you do

I turned down that same offer and never regretted it. Bought from one forum member and turned down the offer from another. What a great place.

[TeeJay]

5513 is certainly the pinnacle of simplicity for Submariner perfection, but I must offer the 9401 as an alternative contender for the title.

Same simplicity of design and aesthetics, but with the improved visibility of the snowflake dial and hands

Plus, it doesn't say Rolex on the dial

[redwatch]

Someone explain to me the difference between the 5512 and 5513 again? I thought the 5512 wasn't cosc certified?

[freddy333]

5512 contains a chronometer rated (by COSC) movement while the 5513 does not. This is why the '12 contains the additional 'Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified' text on the dial (or the chapter ring) & the '13 does not. Otherwise, the cases & ancillary components are the same.

[dieselpower]

@ TeeJay

Sorry but, although I appreciate what you are saying and agree with your reasons. The snowflake is, well, erm... dare I say it..... how should I put this? Oh, what the hell - it's ugly!

[Ephry73]

I'm partial to the 5512 myself. Earlier the better. Freddy has a good point. I like to add that Mr McQueen himself wore the 5512 though everything. I read somewhere that some 5512s had 5513 dials(no COSC wording on dial) but had the better movement, this is only one way. Ultimate tool watch that can be worn formally and is just a staple of a watch.

So, folded bracelet, pointed guards and wear it well.

E, out.

[Watchmeister]

Someone explain to me the difference between the 5512 and 5513 again? I thought the 5512 wasn't cosc certified?

Other way around.

[TeeJay]

@ TeeJay

Sorry but, although I appreciate what you are saying and agree with your reasons. The snowflake is, well, erm... dare I say it..... how should I put this? Oh, what the hell - it's ugly!

Functional, brother, functional!!!