Nanuq Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Pffffffft. You guys are all nuts. This is THE ultimate, the nes plus ultra of vehicles. It corners like a drunk sow on rollerskates, it accelerates like a canoe in molasses, and top speed is 316,800. Errrrrr, feet per hour. ......which is, incidentally, 57.46 times 5513. Just to keep things on topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 I was just going to say that America makes great cars, as long as you drive on wide highways without turns. Freddy, some people live their lives one quarter mile at a time. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Nanuq, I'm a bit out of touch anymore, but as I recall the Viper not only outperformed the Ferrari, but did 203 mph from the factory. I'm looking to change the 'fleet' in the next few months, but will likely stay with another Mercedes for my everyday car. But I think a Corvette will replace the SL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted September 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 The only decent car the Americans ever made was the Ford GT40. And that was British. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted September 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Actually chaps, I'll 'fess up. The first car I fell in love with was the 1956 Thunderbird. Absolutely beautiful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted September 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Thought this car thing might have legs so I've started a thread in general discussion. Hope you appreciate the thought provoking title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) Agree this is my beater everyday 2846 powered 5513! still need a decent crown though! Edited September 10, 2012 by aeromatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted September 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 @ aeromatic I am in the market for a creamy dial and hands. What did you use on yours? In fact what are all the specs on that piece? When you say 'decent crown' what are you going for? Do I detect a gen insert there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 I'm looking to change the 'fleet' in the next few months, but will likely stay with another Mercedes for my everyday car. But I think a Corvette will replace the SL. Unless you are having ALOT of problems with the SL &/or there was a titanic shift in the earth's crust that relocated Stuttgart's designers and assemblers to the longitudinal plots previously inhabited by Motor City, I think that swapping a modern 'Vette for a modern SL would be a bad idea. And I say that as an ex-'Vette owner (red '68 427cid with black interior - a lightning-fast beauty that could not navigate a corner to save its life). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 The 1960 Corvette (`58 through `60) is my all time favorite. It will come to either one of those or the latest C6. The C4 was a world class car, and the C5 better. My first Corvette was a `65 which was the same chassis/suspension/handling as the `68, so I understand what you are saying. But the C6 will out-handle and outperform an SL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted September 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Corvette's can be made to turn properly. I have seen a very impressive performance from one when it was up against the best of European metal. It didn't win but came damn close! Needless to say that car and a factory standard one where chalk and cheese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 @ aeromatic I am in the market for a creamy dial and hands. What did you use on yours? In fact what are all the specs on that piece? When you say 'decent crown' what are you going for? Do I detect a gen insert there? Hi dieselpower the dial i purchased off a guy on ebay he only had 2 dials for sale its marked singer and it came with this creamy look i did not do anything to it, except to the dial feet which only fitted a gen movement the case is a puretime redsub 1680 which is factory fitted with a eta 2846 we modded it to none hack , i found that the case was very close to the gen except for the overlong cgs i used a 1965 gen 5513 a customer had brought in for repairs as a pattern and reshaped the cgs to look as close as i could to the gen if you check my content you will see my post on the puretime 1680 converted to 5513 and i have a photo side by side with the gen im looking for a crown slimmer like a 702 , i have had the crown trimmed from both sides on a lathe to make it appear thinner the crystal is made by my watchmaker friend ,the insert is a yuki it was in fact fitted by yuki to my 6538 case until he sent me correct none 15min markers i have aged the whole watch except the dial the insert was hung outside of my window for months in the hot cyprus sun on a wire, the scratches were made by it scraping on the wall on windy days! the puretime 1680 case was chosen also because the redsub dial is 26mm most reps are around 29mm so the creamy dial was a straight swop the lug profile was indentical to the gen ,the shape i mean. although i like the aged look on a 5513 i will build another 5513 but this will not be aged like this mabe just take off the factory fresh look! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cousin_hub Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) My contribution Edited September 11, 2012 by cousin_hub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmj Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 My contribution Very nice piece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 My contribution Very Nice indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 This is my 5513 before the cgs were shaved down, next to a 1965 gen 5513 notice the yuki insert is an exact match to the gen notice the 1680 puretime case profile is very close to the gen wonder what happened to this gen cgs? mabe we forget that years ago these subs were tool watches and may not have been perfectly finished as todays subs there where so many cgs shapes back then my 5513 and next to it, as it was purchased a 1680 from puretime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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automatico Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 "wonder what happened to this gen cgs? mabe we forget that years ago these subs were tool watches and may not have been perfectly finished as todays subs there where so many cgs shapes back then" I had an R42xxxx 16750 GMT that had been damaged somehow at the lower crown guard and it looked similar to this after the AD 'smoothed it out'. The owner traded it in not liking the 'smoothing out' job and I bought it for $900 in 1991. It looked like new except for the CG. It's long gone but it had an oyster bracelet with a long clasp cap similar to a submariner but no extension. I still have the clasp somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 "wonder what happened to this gen cgs? mabe we forget that years ago these subs were tool watches and may not have been perfectly finished as todays subs there where so many cgs shapes back then" I had an R42xxxx 16750 GMT that had been damaged somehow at the lower crown guard and it looked similar to this after the AD 'smoothed it out'. The owner traded it in not liking the 'smoothing out' job and I bought it for $900 in 1991. It looked like new except for the CG. It's long gone but it had an oyster bracelet with a long clasp cap similar to a submariner but no extension. I still have the clasp somewhere. Interesting i would like like to see a photo of that clasp if you got one i have seen others without extensions they are very early versions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 (edited) 5513 simple and clean no bla bla i would like to build a tudor sub but i cant live with the snowflake dial and handset mabe in the flesh i may grow to like it but for a tudor i will stick with a rose dial with mercedes handset On vintage subs i prefer not to have the officially certified chronometer printing (i mean why lie more that you have to) with a replica and anyway would you like your mustang or vette with writting on its body saying officially certified as a fast car? As we said before rolex was known for using there old stock parts bin so unless we can find someone who worked at rolex in the 60s and can verify infomation anything is possible with regards to chapter rings or not ect. and things are further complcated by rolex service procedure of changing dials crowned whenever someone sent there sub in. . Edited September 14, 2012 by aeromatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 (edited) Does anyone know about the pointed crowguard sub when were they available on ever seen a gmt with pcgs yuki has a 5513 with pcgs is this shape close to the gen? Edited September 14, 2012 by aeromatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 "Does anyone know about the pointed crowguard sub when were they available..." I do not know much about them but here is a 1959 'pcg' 5512 on rolexforums .com: http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=252508 I am not a big 5512 fan but have a non hack 1570 and thought about making one up using an IG44 dial, low buck DW case, Clark's bezel kit, used genuine crown etc. I may flatten the sides of the case like genuine to make it look more realistic although the DW submariner cases with rounded sides are Ok (to me) after I got used to them. I have a DW 5513 'round side' case with an IG44 dial and 1520 and have showed it to a lot of people but not one of them noticed the rounded sides. If someone is handy at modifying cases (drill lugs, flatten case sides etc) the DW case is a good low buck Frankenstein alternative to high buck cases. Add a Clark's bezel kit and away you go... As time goes by and vintage rolex sporty watch prices go up, up, up...I believe the 'Frankenstein rolex' with aftmkt case, bracelet, dial, genuine movement, crown etc will be popular even with some genuine vintage rolex types for an 'everyday watch'. The difference being that we might brag about making our own Frankenstein watch out of parts from near and far and genuine watch types will not admit to what they have. Tabularasa415's post about buying a F-stein from a VRF member shows that they are slowly leaking into the Hallowed Realm of Straight Arrow Collectors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 I have only seen early 5512s with pointed CGs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 I have only seen early 5512s with pointed CGs. i have seen a tudor sub with square crown guards yuki has it for a 5513 i think it is ugly and prefer the rounded CGs myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 There are Gilt dial 5513's with PCG's.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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