Are There Any Honest Rep. Suppliers Here?

[sneed12]

The only people who have been rude are those doing throwing mindless insults and provocation

 

No one has "insulted" you and no one has "provoked" you. (Well ok, ceoCorona called you a "waste of time" which arguably is marginal.)

 

When you ask stupid questions which are supposed to be provocative, calling them "idiocy" isn't an insult. It's simply descriptive. Citing "aluminum wings through steel girders" or "melting point of steel is higher than the temp fuel burns at" as though that is a compelling question somehow betrays a fundamental lack of basic physics understanding. Those are stupid questions with obvious answers--answers that have nothing to do with government conspiracies, because they are basic physics.

[Ipcress]

No one has "insulted" you and no one has "provoked" you. (Well ok, ceoCorona called you a "waste of time" which arguably is marginal.)

 

When you ask stupid questions which are supposed to be provocative, calling them "idiocy" isn't an insult. It's simply descriptive. Citing "aluminum wings through steel girders" or "melting point of steel is higher than the temp fuel burns at" as though that is a compelling question somehow betrays a fundamental lack of basic physics understanding. Those are stupid questions with obvious answers--answers that have nothing to do with government conspiracies, because they are basic physics.

Unbelievable. You cite 'basic physics' and don't understand how thin light fragile aluminium aeroplane wings can be, how they can't possibly slice through solid steel beams holding up the Twin Towers as shown on the all important TV? Common sense tells the average intelligence person its impossible but you defend that as 'basic physics'?!

 

And people complain ....oh sorry...they're 'concerned' about.... my sanity, LOL!

 

The world has been duped, dumbed down and made utterly compliant, effectively forced and bludgened into accept/believing ludicrous fantasy official explanations for an impossible crime. People can't and won't think for themselves about it and rattle off silly yet ignorant self-satisfied nonsense about 'basic physics' that they don't have a clue about.

 

Try this then - Just read and think about it all before getting upset or anything else because this points to evidence, okay, not CTs, its EVIDENCE  :

 

a) How can two aeroplanes hitting WTC1&2 destroy all seven World Trade Centre buildings as they did apparently on 11th September 2001? They were direct hits we were shown on TV? - The other buildings were not impacted apart from minor damage by one beam falling on WTC7 and so that alone raises questions as to how did the other buildings develop massive circular vertical holes through their centres before being destroyed? Evidence of advanced Directed Energy Weapons is the answer.

How did the buildings turn to dust in mid air if they were 'hit by planes'? If you study the evidence collected by Dr Wood, you will see that they appear to 'dustify' and not collapse at all. Merely the effect of seeing the dust settle and hearing descriptions of the event using the word 'collapse' leads people to think it was a collapse. Of course there were some remains of the buildings left, some core columns and 'shreddie-like' steel meshing and concrete but representing 10% of the original mass only.

c) Dr Wood's book initially discusses a 'Billiard Ball Model' to illustrate how it would take significantly longer than 10 seconds for either Tower to 'collapse' as in both the official record and as shown 'live' on US Networked Television. But how did the 110 story buildings with each floor 'pancaking' on top of the one below take just 10 seconds to be demolished? Should it not have been 30 seconds minimum - or a full 90 seconds if each floor pancaked as officially recorded and mathematically calculated. Mathematically, scientifically and common sense suggest that each of those buildings virtually disappearing in 10 seconds approximately is impossible.

d) It is scientifically not possible for the nose cone on the 'plane hitting' WTC2 to go clean through some of the tight fitting outer steel girders ringing the entire vertical structure and some of its inner core column steel girders and out the other side, yet that was seen on 'live' USTV until it 'lost transmission' temporarily. But just how can a Boeing 757 Jet's nose cone cut clean through solid layers of steel in this situation and appear out the other side of the building in tact? Boeing 757 nose cones are made of fibreglass and aluminium and in flight have been damaged by hailstones in the past. Such an incident occurred in 2005 when a Boeing 757 was battered by hailstones as it took off from Palma on the Spanish island of Majorca bound for Gatwick outside London. Its nose cone and wings were damaged, and the cockpit windows cracked, so how can a nose cone let alone a whole 757 cut straight through solid steel and concrete of a very well reinforced skyscraper? Answer, it cannot.

e) Similar to Boeing 757 nosecones, how is it possible let alone probable that aluminium aeroplane wings can slice through solid steel girders, because the laws of physics, Newtons laws of motion, and Materials Science would suggest to the average scientific student that it was an impossibility? To my thinking as there were 236 steel girders around each tower and 47 in their centres, why didn't we see TV pictures of the Jumbo Jets tail sections breaking off and their fuselages falling to the ground as that is what basic physics and dynamic laws of motion will tell an average intelligence person - me. But I didn't see that and am very surprised to say the least especially as the plane reportedly hitting WTC2 did so at an oblique angle rather than head on. But instead we saw a Boeing plough straight through solid steel like it was a wet paper bag leaving a perfect cartoon silhouette behind. How is it possible that aluminium planes can do that, slice through in effect solid steel girders leading to the simultaneous failing of those girders just prior to the buildings 'collapse'? Answer, they didn't, it is not possible and any pictures showing that are evidence of deception.

f) There 1200 cars, lorries and buses toasted, rusted with melted engine blocks over at FDR Drive, 1 Km away from WTC. What had they to do with two planes going into the towers? Could planes hitting the Twin Towers affect motor vehicles nearly 1 kilometre away?

 

g) Why if the towers 'collapsed upon being hit and destroyed by planes' were there no significant seismic signals recorded?

h) Why were there massive magnetometer readings at 08:45 and 9:10 up until 10:20 that morning as recorded by the Alaskan research stations at precisely the time of the plane impacts and respective Tower's destruction? Could that be a natural phenomena do you think and it is just coincidence?

i) Why was Hurricane Erin, directly off the coast of New York that morning, barely reported especially when remembering the US coast guards are so weather minded? Cynics might suggest that it was because it would have interfered with the prepared centralised MSM news coverage of the impending 'plane' attacks and because it was part of the high energy generation process used in the destruction of the WTC via Directed Energy Weapon. Hurricanes are high energy fields, huge Tesla-like coils storing enormous electrical energy and that electro magnetism affects gravity which gives credence to how cars and other large objects are upturned when caught in hurricane fields. To NOT report that massive hurricane in the four day build up and directly off the east coast at 8am on the morning of 9/11 is highly questionable.

j) The melting point of steel is 1200C minimum. Bearing in mind that kerosine burns at approximately 600 degrees why is it that people widely accept that this is what 'weakened' the steel structures leading to their 'collapse' outright? Answer, it is part of a general ignorance and misleading information broadcast by media and other so-called educational 'experts' blindly following official reports written for a misleading and deceptive agenda.

k) Dr Wood’s research highlights so-called “Fuzzballs” of fine dust appear to be being created after heavier dust had settled as the buildings are turned to dust. This suggests that there might be some sort of nuclear action occurring. Similarly, the cleanup teams had to repeatedly hose down this reacting debris that by some accounts was 'hot', molten hot in some accounts. But how can people with rubber boots work for hours on molten material? And what could be the reaction that requires the debris to be hosed down so frequently and for an extended period during and after wards. Indeed that hosing down lasted many months after 11th September.

l) Pilots including ex 747,757,767,777 pilots are united (mainly retired) in stating that the 'Official 911 Report' as compiled by NIST of the planes 'hitting the towers' is simply impossible and if only for the reason that no Boeing Jumbo of whatever flavour can fly at 500mph at altitudes less than 30,000 feet and certainly not at 700ft (approximately floor 80 of WTC1&2) as their wings would break off and the entire fuselage would be shattered due to resistance of the air alone, and that's assuming the planes could get the additional 8 times more power to propel them to that speed at such a low altitude - another impossibility in itself wouldn't you agree? I wonder if you saw that and what your thoughts on it are. I think you can find that too on the accompanying videos or on YouTube : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKHqhdlpvOQ (The many pilots include John Lear of Lear Jet Corp, Capt. Russ Wittenberg pilot of 747, 757, 767, 777, Commander Ralph Kolstad, U.S. Navy (ret) pilot of 757, 767, military aircraft, combat instructor; and 100s of others)

m) TwinTowers 1 & 2 somehow, miraculously, fantastically showed the perfect silhouette of Boeing 757 wings and wingtips at the 'points of entry'. How is it that the Boeing jet that hit the Pentagon - flight 77, also an AA Boeing 757 didn't leave any outline of wings or wingtips. Surely bricks and mortar are easier to penetrate than solid steel, or am I missing something? Initially all the world saw of that impact was a large circular hole in one face of the building. Surely there's a little inconsistency there let alone the bigger one that a plane couldn't have approached the Pentagon from the North side at all in the first place due to obstacles and its flight path.

n) The Twin Towers couldn't have 'collapsed' into the 'bathtub' that was built as foundation on the bedrock over the Hudson River because putting the TV pictures aside there were no seismic readings that correspond and no pile of rubble that reflects 500,000 tonnes of material, and most importantly Lower Manhattan would have been flooded due to the fracturing and destruction of that 500,000 tonnes of steel and concrete falling down upon that 'Bathtub' foundation.

o) The poor people trapped high up in those buildings were taking their clothes off but seemingly not because of radiant fire heat. Clothes protect people from fire heat - so why take them off? Those 1250 'jumpers' seemed almost relieved to be out of the building, why was that? Because they were being subjected to intense microwave bombardment in the destruction of the towers?

p) Following the destruction of the biggest office blocks in the world, the first responders, fire crews and police didn't see one desk, one chair or a single phone - just one single, barely recognisable bizarrely crumpled filing cabinet from a shop based on a ground floor - but nothing from the offices above. That's an unimaginable amount of unaccounted for office furniture - where could it all have gone? Would smoke, fire and remaining building rubble destroy it beyond trace? No, that would defy all existing laws and constitute a physical impossibility the result of an airplane disaster.

q) The streets were littered with millions of sheets of white unburnt paper right next to burning cars in some instances. Scenes of burning buildings, burning cars, 'red hot' steel pouring out of the Towers, and yet millions of perfect white unburned papers everywhere. How is that possible?

r) It is a criminal act to clear away the evidence at the scene of the WTC before any investigation was undertaken. Yet FEMA operatives were on standby the night before on 10th September and involved in the organisation of the Clean Up operation almost immediately after the Twin Towers were destroyed. Over 3000 people died in that incident let alone all those first responders who also died during and afterwards from the dust inhalation and other effects. The many Clean Up personnel who died as well or were permanently harmed subsequently is also of great importance. Just one murder surely requires a full investigation yet not apparently in NYC on 11 September 2001. Within minutes of the Towers being 'attacked by terrorists', the TV News networks had already solved the crime flashing up pictures of 'terrorists' known in the country and those men remained accused of the crime thereon afterwards.

s) In one WTC building, mainstream MSN TV pictures show people in the cut out sections of the Boeing wings at 'impact points' waving for help. If the kerosene had heated the steel structures up to 1200C by exploding then why are those people not incinerated and especially as they were peering out of the impact points? Again, a physical impossibility.

t) Only two people have legally challenged the Official 911 Report as compiled by NIST and which omits nearly all of this data, they are Dr Judy Wood and Dr Morgan Reynolds. Those legal cases can be found at: http://www.drjudywood.co.uk/articles/NIST/NIST_RFC.html. The NIST contractors have subsequently stated that their report which the US Government has released as the Official 911 Report only deals with events leading up to the alleged plane hijackings and impacts of the Twin Towers - and NOT their actual destruction. And yet this official report has been actively represented as THE definitive explanation of the event up to AND including the Towers destruction. This is fraud and deception on a national and international scale affecting the UK.

u) Miscellaneous - including Official 9/11 Reporting of mysterious 'distressed phone calls to relatives' from alleged hijacked passengers in an era when that technology did not exists and certainly was not available to the public, i.e. direct dial from personal phones whilst in commercial passenger Boeing 757 Jet aeroplanes at altitudes of 35,000 feet or more.

 

 

Remember, you implicitly asked and so I'm just politely informing you that you and the world need to rethink it all and start asking questions because at the moment you're all looking at and seeing illusions and hearing nonsense to back up those illusions.

 

Have a nice evening.

 

Kind Rgds

 

[sneed12]

Unbelievable. You cite 'basic physics' and don't understand how thin light fragile aluminium aeroplane wings can be, how they can't possibly slice through solid steel beams holding up the Twin Towers as shown on the all important TV? Common sense tells the average intelligence person its impossible but you defend that as 'basic physics'?!

 

You are simply wrong. Airplane wings can easily go through steel if they're going fast enough (not "slice", they will deform and it's more of a tearing action, but effectively it's the same). It is basic physics. You can punch most things through most other things with enough pressure.

 

You start from an incorrect premise. That's how your whole idiocy works. Please take it elsewhere, this is a forum for watches.

[asciwhite]

Dunning-Kruger effect comes to mind...

[dbane883]

This popcorn is delicious.

Have you ever taken a plane wing and whipped it at a fully occupied building yourself to see what would happen?

I'm not saying I agree or disagree with the above. But you seem to take the above hypotheses as facts. While they may be, Without conducting actual tests replicating the same conditions using the same materials, Dr woods theories will remain just that. Theories.

There are other theories and I have my own and will not voice them here. But dood, seriously, get a grip. These are discussions are best made over a Guiness.. You admitted that we are too blind to see or seek the truth, so why continue? Maybe you don't think we are all so blind afterall!

It's ok to say that.

Oh. Have a nice evening.

[dbane883]

Oh. And yes, as velocity increases, the momentum increases. P=mv

While the sheathing on airplanes are thin, they are structurally very strong. I certainly wouldn't want to be hit by one at 500 knots.

I also have a degree in physics,,, not that it means anything.

[elconquistador]

Holy [censored]. I had no idea how crazy this [censored] was. Is there a daily word count limit here to protect from spamming?

Ipcress, you are batshit crazy. There are no two ways around it. You need help. You need to be institutionalized for your safety and those around you.

As far as Andrew. I have done lots of business with him in China. He has no more tolerance for crazy than we do.

[kbh]

Mythbusters shoot a pingpong ball through a paddle:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qV4xVAYCK8Q#t=0

 

It's all about the speed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

piece of straw stuck in a tree:

[Corral]

I have to say that initially I thought OP was joking. Now I'm sure of it.

You have a rough sense of humor but it made me laugh. Thanks for that.

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[ceocorona]

And I'm being accused of insulting this "gentlemen"? I think I'm on point when I said this character is a "waste of time". He's posted nothing constructive to the hobby and continues to drool nonsense.

I "honestly assume" that he has nothing better to do in his assisted living home then to post about these theories.

Dare I ask your take on Roswell? Oh, what about the pyramids? I'd be delighted to hear your take on all world events...

[Ipcress]

Mythbusters shoot a pingpong ball through a paddle:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qV4xVAYCK8Q#t=0

 

It's all about the speed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

piece of straw stuck in a tree:

Hi, and thanks for your reply.

 

You appear to be conflating two entirely different things. Leaving aside the inconclusive or rather the weak piece of evidence of the straw 'thru' the tree picture, your other pictures show the effects that can happen in hurricanes with trees bending so far they crack thus allowing in debris, and the wood slat in the brick is an easy one as brick is a relatively 'soft' material and the wood probably found a weak spot in that hollow brick and mortar.

 

Kind Rgds

[Ipcress]

Oh. And yes, as velocity increases, the momentum increases. P=mv

While the sheathing on airplanes are thin, they are structurally very strong. I certainly wouldn't want to be hit by one at 500 knots.

I also have a degree in physics,,, not that it means anything.

Look at the nose cones of Boeing Jets hit by hale stones at 500 knots. They are made out of thin aluminium and glass fibre - same for the wings - they cannot withstand any impact as they are made so light to ...guess what.... get the plane off the ground to fly just like birds do. That's right, if a bird hit a series of steel beams even at 1000 knots it wouldn't punch its way through the metal and concrete either regardless of any 'momentum'. I'm afraid you just get it all wrong.

 

You like most simply refuse to go to reality and prefer the safety of Official nonsense just for an easy life.

 

Have a nice day.

 

Kind Rgds

Edited May 3, 2014 by Ipcress

[Ipcress]

And I'm being accused of insulting this "gentlemen"? I think I'm on point when I said this character is a "waste of time". He's posted nothing constructive to the hobby and continues to drool nonsense.

I "honestly assume" that he has nothing better to do in his assisted living home then to post about these theories.

Dare I ask your take on Roswell? Oh, what about the pyramids? I'd be delighted to hear your take on all world events...

I don't know about that which you divert to, Roswell...?

 

All I'm interested in here are watches and to answer questions and ludicrous suppositions on 'my interests' which some members here take exception to. Nothing else.

 

Kind Rgds

[Ipcress]

Holy [censored]. I had no idea how crazy this [censored] was. Is there a daily word count limit here to protect from spamming?

Ipcress, you are batshit crazy. There are no two ways around it. You need help. You need to be institutionalized for your safety and those around you.

As far as Andrew. I have done lots of business with him in China. He has no more tolerance for crazy than we do.

Thank you for your insults.

 

I see you have no answers or constructive thoughts tho', unsurprisingly.

 

Have a nice day.

 

Kind Rgds

[Ipcress]

Ooh, ooh, ooh, thread hijack time!

 

What is your favourite Conspiracy Theory?

This 'thread' may have been hijacked but only by people who take issue with 'my interests', post inane comment and insults and expect no response.

 

My responses are logical, rational and based upon facts. All that is returned are empty rhetoric and ignorant misinformation.

 

CTs are different to evidence and facts, I deal in the latter.

 

Kind Rgds

[Jkay]

May I ask if you used to be on medication, but felt better and stopped? Thats a common occurrence.

[Ipcress]

This popcorn is delicious.

Have you ever taken a plane wing and whipped it at a fully occupied building yourself to see what would happen?

I'm not saying I agree or disagree with the above. But you seem to take the above hypotheses as facts. While they may be, Without conducting actual tests replicating the same conditions using the same materials, Dr woods theories will remain just that. Theories.

There are other theories and I have my own and will not voice them here. But dood, seriously, get a grip. These are discussions are best made over a Guiness.. You admitted that we are too blind to see or seek the truth, so why continue? Maybe you don't think we are all so blind afterall!

It's ok to say that.

Oh. Have a nice evening.

These are not 'theories' but instead evidence and facts. As for 'Have you ever taken a plane wing and whipped it at a fully occupied building yourself to see what would happen?'..... I'm casting my mind back..?

 

Kind Rgds

[Ipcress]

May I ask if you used to be on medication, but felt better and stopped? Thats a common occurrence.

Again, more insults but complete failure to 'go there' and even look at what's happening in your own country, let alone your world.

 

I guess people just don't care enough, they prefer illusion and an easy life as their freedoms are taken from them while allowing the minds to be filled with nonsense.

 

As for 'meds'.... strangely enough no, I don't do them, nor any other drugs or alcohol.

 

What about yourself..... er no, I'd rather not go there, too  messy.

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

Kind Rgds

[irolexu]

Mods you may just want to move this thread to general discussion...OP. Good luck on your quest for the best milgauss rep but at this point it just seems like your starving for attention and this forum is reserved for us that would like answers on rep watches. I would suggest taking your ideas on 9/11 to a forum that is geared for those topics. Might as well stick to the topic you originally asked about.

[Ipcress]

Mods you may just want to move this thread to general discussion...OP. Good luck on your quest for the best milgauss rep but at this point it just seems like your starving for attention and this forum is reserved for us that would like answers on rep watches. I would suggest taking your ideas on 9/11 to a forum that is geared for those topics. Might as well stick to the topic you originally asked about.

I concur to an extent, but my interests were asked on sign-up and then one or two posters got curious, then asked a question or two, then got carried away with being outraged and the insults then started and all I'm doing is responding. Do you suggest I just lay down and take it? Can't do that I'm afraid.

 

Yes, I was very interested in the Milgauss but you can't seem to get the right glass for the RVs - not without paying for Gen. glass with is disproportionately expensive.

 

Anyhow, I went for the Rolex Vintage Red Sub 004 from Andrew in the end.

 

Kind Rgds

[dbane883]

While my popcorn is still delicious, your responses are becoming more stale by the minute. Your efforts as a prophet for Dr. Wood are misguided as you actually fail to see the the real truth.

[Ipcress]

While my popcorn is still delicious, your responses are becoming more stale by the minute. Your efforts as a prophet for Dr. Wood are misguided as you actually fail to see the the real truth.

Thanks for your reply, but isn't it akin to a redneck taking tea with the Queen of England and asking what the plates and cups are for?

 

Neither you nor anybody else here appears to have seen let alone read any of Dr Wood's evidence - thats EVIDENCE.... - let alone her compendium 'Where Did The Towers Go?'.

 

None of your are Physics experts let alone possessing a half decent understanding of the subject. None of you could even bear to look at the points I made yesterday in the long post listing some evidence, instead you preferred to remain in ignorance and denial, a position that you think is cosiest for your own personal needs. Some legacy that is.

 

Neither have you the willingness or ability now perhaps to open your minds (singlely and collectively) to be able to take in the information that is there for you all to see. What does that say about you, that you can't run fast enough to total enslavement towards the most enormous lies told not just this century but the last one too? I guess if you have no freedom then you won't miss it, and if you're already all captive to the illusions at your prison gates and quite happy there then there is little I or anybody can do for you. But do the children of tomorrow deserve that from this generation, because that's what you're all doing, you're selling them out tomorrow for your easy life today.

 

Again, you raised it I answered.

 

Enjoy your popcorn.

 

Kind Rgds

Edited May 3, 2014 by Ipcress

[tomhorn]

Can believe this thread has gone on this long ... oh, and Oswald didn't shoot Kennedy.

[dbane883]

You clearly have a problem reading. I repeat, I am very well educated on Dr. Woods work. You are as blinded by her work as much as you claim the rest of us are. Your hypocrisy is comical.

You choose to be a follower and as such have closed your mind. You have much to learn padawan.

[Ipcress]

Can believe this thread has gone on this long ... oh, and Oswald didn't shoot Kennedy.

 

Thank you for your reply. But again, condescension and insult - no answers. That's the way debate is shut down by Authorities too - they're as afraid as the public who just don't want to go there for fear of what they'll find.

 

Now I have other watches to look for, so if you don't mind.... Have a nice day.

 

Kind Rgds