thesheriff Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Hi, just assembling parts for my first build, an explorer 1016. Getting a case set from JMB. Dial and hands form yukiand not totally decided on the movement yet. I'm also looking for either a 7206 or 7836 bracelet. I know Yuki stocks both but the 7206 is out of stock, anyone know where I could source one of these at a reasonable price? And also whether this would be a straight fit on to the case or if some modding would need to be done? With the 7836, I see perfect clones stock one for $55 compared to yuki's $197 version. Anyone know if there are major differences with these two bracelets, and again whether they would be a straight fit onto the JMB case? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVNE Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 What year 1016 are you shooting for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesheriff Posted October 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 What year 1016 are you shooting for? I'm not intending to be that specific in making it of a correct year to be honest, however, something very similar to this is what I'm hoping for - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rolex-Explorer-1016-circa-1969-/141411808106?pt=UK_Jewelery_Watches_Watches_MensWatches_GL&hash=item20ecccf36a I'm going for this dial from yuki - http://www.yukiwatch.com/catalog/item/8677844/9637047.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhooq Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Don't bother with the Yuki 7836. If it's anything like the one I received a few years back, you get a better-looking clasp, but also big headaches thanks to fixed endlinks that aren't a particularly good fit on anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesheriff Posted October 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Don't bother with the Yuki 7836. If it's anything like the one I received a few years back, you get a better-looking clasp, but also big headaches thanks to fixed endlinks that aren't a particularly good fit on anything. So better with the one from joshua? Would this fit straight onto a JMB case ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhorn Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I got my 7836 from Mary. Not perfect, but great for the money. Used WSO 580 endlinks. Sorry I don't have a better pic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesheriff Posted October 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 I got my 7836 from Mary. Not perfect, but great for the money. Used WSO 580 endlinks. Sorry I don't have a better pic. Thanks, found the end links but how do I get in contact with Mary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 I've got the same combo as tomhorn on a 5513. Best 'bang for buck' I reckon. However, I've got a JMB caseset for a 1016 so I've just tried fitting my 5513 bracelet to it and I'm afraid it's not quite right. The 2mm springbars fit fine into the lugs on their own but when put into the endlinks the 580's don't allow the springbar to line up with the lug holes. It's very close but not quite there. I'm no expert on endlinks but some with slightly smaller 'hoods' might allow the springbar to line up with the lug holes then, I reckon you're in business. Hope this helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champagnesky Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Thanks, found the end links but how do I get in contact with Mary? check out watch international td. Im in the same situation with my newly built 1016. Where did you get the endlinks btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesheriff Posted October 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 check out watch international td. Im in the same situation with my newly built 1016. Where did you get the endlinks btw? I can't find a link for watch international, do you have one? Heres the link for the end links - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310478806424?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT WSO stands for wholesale outlet on ebay (i've just discovered)........they have a whole bunch of different parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champagnesky Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Look in the TD section.I can't find a link for watch international, do you have one? Heres the link for the end links - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310478806424?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT WSO stands for wholesale outlet on ebay (i've just discovered)........they have a whole bunch of different parts.thx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesheriff Posted October 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Look in the TD section. thx! I have......but I can't actually get a web address that works. If you have one it would be much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhorn Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) I've got the same combo as tomhorn on a 5513. Best 'bang for buck' I reckon. However, I've got a JMB caseset for a 1016 so I've just tried fitting my 5513 bracelet to it and I'm afraid it's not quite right. The 2mm springbars fit fine into the lugs on their own but when put into the endlinks the 580's don't allow the springbar to line up with the lug holes. It's very close but not quite there. I'm no expert on endlinks but some with slightly smaller 'hoods' might allow the springbar to line up with the lug holes then, I reckon you're in business. Hope this helps. On mine, I used these endlinks (not the ones linked above): http://www.ebay.com/itm/580-END-PIECE-FOR-ROLEX-SUBMARINER-OYSTER-BAND-78360-/171022393380?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27d1baa024 I had my gen case drilled out for fat springbars. I believe he sells both versions, so make sure you order for your setup. Also, I used the Aussie Springbars: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GENUINE-SPRINGBAR-for-ROLEX-EXPLORER-1016-SUB-23-9293-/351011434208?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51b9e96ee0 I just contacted Mary by email and told her I wanted the 7836 bracelet from LHOOQ's review and they knew exactly what to send.. Edited October 15, 2014 by tomhorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesheriff Posted October 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 On mine, I used these endlinks (not the ones linked above): http://www.ebay.com/itm/580-END-PIECE-FOR-ROLEX-SUBMARINER-OYSTER-BAND-78360-/171022393380?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27d1baa024 I had my gen case drilled out for fat springbars. I believe he sells both versions, so make sure you order for your setup. Also, I used the Aussie Springbars: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GENUINE-SPRINGBAR-for-ROLEX-EXPLORER-1016-SUB-23-9293-/351011434208?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51b9e96ee0 I just contacted Mary by email and told her I wanted the 7836 bracelet from LHOOQ's review and they knew exactly what to send.. Excellent, thanks for this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champagnesky Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Does anyone know if joshua has the same bracelet as mary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesheriff Posted October 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Does anyone know if joshua has the same bracelet as mary? Yeah, look under vintage explorer on his site.......$55 I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champagnesky Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Yeah, look under vintage explorer on his site.......$55 I think.its not the same. It looks like it doesent accept fat springbars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champagnesky Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Btw does Marys 7836 need any mod or is it good to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesheriff Posted October 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Btw does Marys 7836 need any mod or is it good to go? I think as tom horn was saying above, you need to get the 580 end-links to accommodate the fat spring bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 The 2mm springbars fit fine into the lugs on their own but when put into the endlinks the 580's don't allow the springbar to line up with the lug holes. It's very close but not quite there. Most of the times a bit of grinding is needed where the top of the end-link meets the case. If I could get cases without the inner "dimples" I could properly place the holes. Seems that everything with reps is a compromise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesheriff Posted October 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Rochest from WI has told me he can get both the 7206 and the 7836 for me, $55 each but can't assure me that the number engravings on the first links will be ok. Think its worth the chance?? I'll maybe see if I can get photos first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhooq Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 The engravings are meaningless, and often have no bearing on the end pieces they're supposed to be replicating. I'm very curious about the $55 7206, though, as I'm not sure if I've ever seen one. For that selfish reason alone, I say you should go for it! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesheriff Posted October 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 The engravings are meaningless, and often have no bearing on the end pieces they're supposed to be replicating. I'm very curious about the $55 7206, though, as I'm not sure if I've ever seen one. For that selfish reason alone, I say you should go for it! Haha, I agree......$55 seems too good to be true though. I think I'm gonna order them both and see what turns up. Most people seem happy with the 7386 from WI so at least that'll be useable even if the 7206 isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champagnesky Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Rochest from WI has told me he can get both the 7206 and the 7836 for me, $55 each but can't assure me that the number engravings on the first links will be ok. Think its worth the chance?? I'll maybe see if I can get photos first.got the 7836 from WI today, the engravings on the links are ok but the folded clasp has a 93250 de6 engraved on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champagnesky Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Here are some pics of the WI 7836 btw: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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