bobkat Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) Hello guys! Recently became interested in the 6263, and so I ordered a cartel version to try out the case size and see how the watch wears. My wrist is 7.5 inches, here are a few shots. Just a basic Cartel version, but hey it's my first 6263. I'm trying to decide if I want to do a proper build, you guys think the cartel is good enough as a base? Edited April 9, 2015 by bobkat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoopy12 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 It all depends on your budget! Cartel, Spinmaster, DW, Phong, are all options, but each very different in terms of $ invested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobkat Posted April 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 It all depends on your budget! Cartel, Spinmaster, DW, Phong, are all options, but each very different in terms of $ invested Hi Whoopy! Thanks for your reply. Well here's my understanding of the case options: Cartel: good bang for buck. But the mid case is too thick. readily available. Spinmaster: not available DW: not available Phong: 2-3k for a case set, but best case dimensions and finishing possible. Here's my understanding of the dial options: Cartel: bad daytona font/placement, subdial rings not great Spinmaster: not sure DW: not available Phong: pretty good dial, but the concentric rings aren't correct for the big red silver dial Yuki: incorrect daytona spacing (not sure on concentric rings for sub dials) Gen: AWESOMENESS! I'm not sure how correct that info is, i've tried to find a good repository of info for building a 6263 and it as most things rep it appears to be constantly evolving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 You've pretty well covered the case options, etc. With DW out of the picture and given the fact that Spinmaster worked on DW cases and dials, those two are gone. There is 'Son of Phong' who sells parts on ebay- world_time_inc_online is his store- he's got a few dials and other parts. So like you say, the cartel watches are really the only way to go unless you spend big on Phong stuff, also there's MQ over in Saigon, expensive and always a challenge buying from someone in Vietnam. M2M is your other option- keep your eyes open. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Other options are NDT & MQ. Of the 2, NDT tends to be cheaper & more variable, MQ is probably the most expensive, but also the most accurate (most of the time). In either case, at this price level (high) I would recommend that YOU do your research (on gens) before clicking any buy buttons. No aftermarket part is perfect. They all contain flaws & YOU need to decide which flaws bother you the least. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest REPPIN Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Hello guys! Recently became interested in the 6263, and so I ordered a cartel version to try out the case size and see how the watch wears. My wrist is 7.5 inches, here are a few shots. Just a basic Cartel version, but hey it's my first 6263. I'm trying to decide if I want to do a proper build, you guys think the cartel is good enough as a base? Just out of curiosity, what dealer did you get that from. A link would be great, Ive been looking for a base to start a build on and this one looks better than the last "cartel" daytona I purchased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobkat Posted April 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 You've pretty well covered the case options, etc. With DW out of the picture and given the fact that Spinmaster worked on DW cases and dials, those two are gone. There is 'Son of Phong' who sells parts on ebay- world_time_inc_online is his store- he's got a few dials and other parts. So like you say, the cartel watches are really the only way to go unless you spend big on Phong stuff, also there's MQ over in Saigon, expensive and always a challenge buying from someone in Vietnam. M2M is your other option- keep your eyes open. I certainly will keep an eye on the M2M section, thanks for the advice. Other options are NDT & MQ. Of the 2, NDT tends to be cheaper & more variable, MQ is probably the most expensive, but also the most accurate (most of the time). In either case, at this price level (high) I would recommend that YOU do your research (on gens) before clicking any buy buttons. No aftermarket part is perfect. They all contain flaws & YOU need to decide which flaws bother you the least. Thanks for these other options. The NDT subdial font on the silver 6263 big red looks too thick. The spacing of the red daytona is also a little off to my eye. I really love the silver dial at MQ, but it states "sold". The patina on the lume dots, the fonts, they all look great to my eye. I guess in the end, case shape becomes less of an issue for me with the dial being the biggest draw back of the cartel. Thanks for the advice I will look more into these two vendors for dials. Just out of curiosity, what dealer did you get that from. A link would be great, Ive been looking for a base to start a build on and this one looks better than the last "cartel" daytona I purchased. I got this from Sead aka supermirrors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 That looks really nice. I'm starting to take a liking to these vintage Daytonas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemballa Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Does he still charge around 200 for these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobkat Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Does he still charge around 200 for these? It was closer to 250 or 260 I think, can't remember exactly. Edited April 13, 2015 by bobkat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachcomber Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 You've pretty well covered the case options, etc. With DW out of the picture and given the fact that Spinmaster worked on DW cases and dials, those two are gone. There is 'Son of Phong' who sells parts on ebay- world_time_inc_online is his store- he's got a few dials and other parts. So like you say, the cartel watches are really the only way to go unless you spend big on Phong stuff, also there's MQ over in Saigon, expensive and always a challenge buying from someone in Vietnam. M2M is your other option- keep your eyes open. Son of Phong.....I'm rolling... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneP Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 I think "Son of Phong" is www.vintagewatchmaker.com. "S.O.P" seems to ve similar high end parts from Vietnam like MQ , NDT & Phong. Their 6263 build kit(everything but a v72 movt) is $2k. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipbip Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Hey mate, you cant received PM... Envoyé de mon iPad en utilisant Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobkat Posted April 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Thanks for the info on S.O.P hah! 2K ... might be worth it if can get a good dial. So far everything i'm looking at is wrong in some way or another. I wonder if it'll have to be a refinished gen dial i go with ... Thanks for all the feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjuna.satria Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Hi all. Noob question. Who is cartel? Is he a TD? And where can i purchase his products? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Hi all. Noob question. Who is cartel? Is he a TD? And where can i purchase his products? Cartel generally refers to Josh (Perfect Clones) and Andrew (Trusty Time). They are TDs on some of the forums but not all, so check and see if they are on the list here at RWG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjuna.satria Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Thank you Mendota! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoanast Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Please post your items for sale in sales area parts or watches, read rules tagged pic required. MOAB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhorn Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 i have a 6263 yuki case shapped with vj mv 7750 working chronos refinishing dial waterproof 5 atm tested i offer for 300 $ excellent franken watch No backdoor selling. Post a sales thread if you want to sell a watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 No backdoor selling. Post a sales thread if you want to sell a watch. Indeed. Specially for a non contributing member who I personally warned several time. We'll see what the team decide but in my humble opinion this is one too much. theoanast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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