pro expert dan Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 I (and many others) were abit to late to catch the noobmariner since it got so popular and i'm just wondoring what is the next best thing? I have never been good at making decisions so i will need help on this one... Who has the next best sub atthe price $150 and lower? As well as the watch in hand, could people take the dealers repeatability into consideration. I was thinking something along the lines of the following.... perfect-clones, Beginmariner - $108.00 http://perfect-clones.com/rlss10009-black-...ing-p-2311.html WO Mart, SO CALLED PERFECT SUBMARINER - $149.00 http://www.wo-mart.com/product_info.php?cP...roducts_id=1165 trustytime, Submariner - $118.00 http://www.trustytime.com/index.php?main_p...products_id=257 All suggestions are open. Thanks. ... please don't flame me, i hope this is not the same as the "who has the best sub" topics as this is more comparing the three which are already on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdo2milger Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 depends on your preference for movt... the only eta of the 3 is pauls... i have Pauls, and its as good as it gets for that price. Joshs, and Andrews look good also, but im weary of the asian movts. but like i said, depends on the engine upgrade...i always go for the v-8's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 Well, Dan, I think you just picked out the three best deals for under $150. Of course, Paul's will run a little more depending on how you pay for it, since you got to get the money over to him, but it is an ETA. I just ordered Josh's Beginmariner myself because, as far as I can tell, it has the Seagull 2813 movement (see the WO under the balance wheel). I'm giving it to a nephew as a late xmas present of sorts. I do also have the noobmariner and, BTW, Paul's, TTK's, Josh's and TWG's all have the same case with the ubquitous serial # F520117. Oops, don't forget EL. Really, the only real decision is whether or not you get the ETA movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gargoil Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 The $188 Sub from Andrew looks to me like the exact same watch as the noobmariner with a turbocharged Swiss movement powering it! I have both watches and can only tell the difference by the slightly better positioning of the datefont on the Swiss version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondbaseman12 Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 I have pauls sub as well, great rep love it. Niels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swdivad Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 [censored] it... go for the jackpot. Just get a Panerai and you'll never be able to wear a sub again. Problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireless Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 Paul's ETA or choose your dealer as they say. But only ETA and not asian 21J if you dont want another paperweight. I have Paul's with eta and one of the first noobmariners of TTK with asian. ETA ...I repeat.....get ETA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitmic Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 Onto the different movements. I have >10 asian 21j movements and NONE (knock on wood) have failed yet. I got one DOA though. I think the fear of asian 21j movements are silly, or I might have been lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 Or try to get the nymfomariner from Narikaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 [censored] it... go for the jackpot. Just get a Panerai and you'll never be able to wear a sub again. Problem solved. btw... I am slowly getting to prefer Asian 21J in place of ETAs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystalcranium Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 I paid $119 for Pauls ETA sub a few months ago and it's a great value. Cyclops mag is spot on 2.5X, decent CG's, very deep rehaut, good bracelet, decent lume, ok crown, decent dial, no glaring faults... COSC like performance out of the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkside7 Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 why is the SO CALLED PERFECT SUBMARINER from Pual cheaper than his regular ETA Sub??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 why is the SO CALLED PERFECT SUBMARINER from Pual cheaper than his regular ETA Sub??????? Because of sort of Anselmo's onthologic proof: Inexpensiveness is a merit. Perfection cannot lack any merit. Hence, a PERFECT <sub/anything/anyone> must also be inexpensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bklm1234 Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 (edited) Paul has 2 versions of ETA sub. My recommendation is don't get the so called perfect sub. Get his W-748 instead. My formula: 1) get Paul's W-748 (Josh, Angus, Ruby, Silix, Belial2k, etc. sell the thing). It has a thicker crystal and a better crown. And most of all it has a truly deep rehaut. . I have one of these. Check out the rehaut. That's very good compared to the gen's. Mine: Gen: The so-called perfect sub is the same thing as the noobmariner except it has a ETA. I have the noobmariner. The rehaut is way too shallow, the crown is too big, the crystal is too low. Look at the left pic: 2) W-748 has a couple of flaws - the date window is too far right. So get a dial and a date wheel of the Noobmariner or Paul's so-called perfect sub or Andrew's sub or EddieLee. The dial should be $8 to $30. The date wheel is $10 to $20. 3) W-748's cyclop has too much magnification. So replace it and of course line it up right. RBJ can do this. Not expensive. 4) optional: while you have RBJ change the cyclop, have him do a partial or complete CG reshape. 5) optional: get a new insert $25 to $60 for an aftermarket, more for gen. It'll be one killer sub with what's being offered by our dealers today. W-748 is a good platform. MBW may be better but god knows where to get it now. Edited December 27, 2006 by bklm1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triodus Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 I have the $ 188 Re-launch version of the LV Submariner from Andrew, Superb watch for the price. You might also consider the BeginnerMariner from Josh. For the price I don't think that there is much being offred that can beat it for right now, my Dad just ordered one on the 24TH. I will let everyone know how it looks when it arrives. "SOF" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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section8 Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 I bought Paul's "so called perfect" LV sub. For the price and what i wanted in a replica sub it was great for me. I'm not concerned with fooling an AD, I just wanted a good replica and this one was a good price. i can live with the flaws and Paul gave me great service (again) On SS bracelet: On black NATO maratec band: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 Wow! Ordered Josh's Beginmariner on the 22nd and it arrived today, the 28th. That's pretty good service. And it looks just like the noobmariner, but it should, since it's the same case and dial. Can't wait to get home and pop the back off, to take a look at movement. Thanks Josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pro expert dan Posted December 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 (edited) Wow! Ordered Josh's Beginmariner on the 22nd and it arrived today, the 28th. That's pretty good service. And it looks just like the noobmariner, but it should, since it's the same case and dial. Can't wait to get home and pop the back off, to take a look at movement. Thanks Josh. nice to see a good review as im planning on ordering one this week. What about Silix version: ETA for only $115 http://www.silix-prime.com/product.asp?id=1212 Is it strange that im scared of it? Edited December 29, 2006 by pro expert dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gargoil Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 You can relly notice the difference of the second hand sweep between the ETA and Asian powered Subs when they are side by side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylar Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 (edited) This thread is very helpful to me as I am in the process of selecting one as well. There is so much information on this forum on these watches I feel I will spend 2 weeks reading post after post after post. I just ordered a Seamaster from TTY before their site went down due to exceeded bandwidth. Cant wait to get it and post reveiws on it. I am new to this forum but not new to Reps but I can not begin to fathom how everyone can tell the diff between all the watches, movements, clasps, crowns, etc. I only hope that time will help train my eyes and brain as well. Edited December 29, 2006 by yllwtrb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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