hologramet Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 So, with the influx of NOS MBW-watches I'm thinking that a separate thread for my build might be appropriate. Base: - MBW 5512/5513 case w/ movement; 400 USD - Superdome Clarks T19; 17 USD - Ended up using a Sternkreutz x-tal instead 30 USD? - Athaya acrylic pearl; 10 USD - - MQ-ish 5512 gilt chapter dial; aprox 250 USD - Custom bracelet using solid-link cartel links + Noob v3 glidelock + WSO 580 end links. Aprox 150-200 USD incl. labour Alternatives: Solid straight end with adjustable ratchet buckle 108 USD RECOMMENDED!! Ratchet is perfect!http://www.ebay.com/itm/20mm-Super-Engineer-Solid-Stainless-Steel-Straight-End-Watch-Band-Ratchet-buckle-/400813228226?hash=item5d525480c2 Ploprof Flat Shark Mesh (length 124-141mm) 123 USD http://www.ebay.com/itm/20mm-Ploprof-316-Reform-Stainless-Steel-SHARK-Mesh-Watch-Band-Dome-Deployant-/201223217354?var=&hash=item74831f7803 Flat Shark Mesh 53 USD http://www.ebay.com/itm/191569107073 Regular Shark Mesh 47 USD http://www.ebay.com/itm/151666612608 NOSTIME Oil Tan Brown Watch Strap 125 USD http://www.ebay.com/itm/141871196866 WatchGecko: Semi-matte heavy solid bracelet (fits 2 mm fat bars) 68 USD http://www.ebay.com/itm/290842706038?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&var=590098120715&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Solid brushed double lock bracelet 43 USD http://www.ebay.com/itm/20mm-Solid-Brushed-Double-Lock-Heavy-Stainless-Steel-Watch-Bracelet-Fits-ALL-/371535590120?hash=item56813f32e8 - - Yuki fat font insert 30 USD TC 16613 Gold Sub hands 25 USD / Relumed by Big Daz (+50 USD aprox) Athaya 700 crown + tube 50 USD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Oooooo should be a good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant1 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 I believe I have that same dial I was planning a very similar build, is it from dung via eBay? after looking at MQ site, some are seemingly identical. Sent from my iPod touch using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanillaxavy Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 can anyone link me to MQ? sorry for the inconvenience sent from BOOOOOOOOOM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Cordell Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 can anyone link me to MQ? sorry for the inconvenience sent from BOOOOOOOOOM http://vintagewatchesmq.com/minhquy/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=98&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbane883 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Are you going to mod the MBW to be a PCG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolojack Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 PCG case is slimmer than a RCG... You need to lathe the top and bottom. Better do that on a cheap cartel and keep your 5512 for a different project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mui.richard.hk Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Is it just me or is that MBW 5512/3 case looking mighty fine even before any work done? Makes me wonder why we spend so much time trimming CGs... I need to do something about those darn ugly hands... Sent from my D6653 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 21 hours ago, ant1 said: I believe I have that same dial I was planning a very similar build, is it from dung via eBay? after looking at MQ site, some are seemingly identical. Sent from my iPod touch using Tapatalk Yeah it's from Dung. Accidentally paid overprice for it. Should have gotten it from tonnywatches for 250USD incl. S&H. After some discussion it seems that they have the same vietnamese supplier. Nice. Better than paying close to 1000USD from MQ? 11 hours ago, dbane883 said: Are you going to mod the MBW to be a PCG? Yeah, I was planning it, since I was told that it was the only case that had a enough meat to be close to it. 8 hours ago, rolojack said: PCG case is slimmer than a RCG... You need to lathe the top and bottom. Better do that on a cheap cartel and keep your 5512 for a different project. I am aware of the fact that it won't be 100%. On the other hand, as soon as one will see that dial and the TC-hands, for a vintage-Rolex fan, it should be pretty obvious that it's a replica. So, considering stuff like case thickness, rubber ring under the bezel, etc, it's "good enough for me". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Some inspiration: Crystal http://www.vintagehour.com/rolex-tropic-crystals-ii-a-comparison-between-t19-and-t39-references/ PCG case shape & 700-crown Lume yellow/amber puffy Hands (gold, maybe even a big lollipop hand á la 6538 7924) Bezel insert (in purple/matte red) http://www.vintagehour.com/visual-comparison-a-study-of-rolex-bezel-inserts-part-2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin007 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Heres one i put together,not finished yet,phong case ,yuki dial and hands,gen insert and crystal, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted February 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 While I'm waiting for my MBW to arrive... Sweet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted February 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 A question to Athaya afficionados... Does the 700-crown and the tube on MBW 5512 work together or is the tube + drill + retapping needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 "A question to Athaya afficionados... Does the 700-crown and the tube on MBW 5512 work together or is the tube + drill + retapping needed?" I have never used an Athaya crown or tube but have tried a genuine 7000 tube in an MBK case and it fits Ok. This is because the later 7030 case tubes are direct replacements for the earlier 7000 tubes so any case that will accept a 7030 case tube should accept a 7000 tube. This being said, if the case has to be tapped to accept a genuine spec 7000 or 7030 case tube there is something wrong somewhere. I would not retap an expensive case that a genuine spec 7030 tube fits just to fit a 7000 aftmkt tube because there is too much chance of ruining the case threads. Note on MBK cases...the three I have are not machined exactly like genuine where the gasket fits between the case tube and case. I had to use some other gasket but do not remember what it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflash Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Here's mine. I used a 1680 case. Yuki dial, hands, insert and a 700 crown and tube from Athaya. I needed to countersink and retap the case to fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted February 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 13 hours ago, automatico said: "A question to Athaya afficionados... Does the 700-crown and the tube on MBW 5512 work together or is the tube + drill + retapping needed?" I have never used an Athaya crown or tube but have tried a genuine 7000 tube in an MBK case and it fits Ok. This is because the later 7030 case tubes are direct replacements for the earlier 7000 tubes so any case that will accept a 7030 case tube should accept a 7000 tube. This being said, if the case has to be tapped to accept a genuine spec 7000 or 7030 case tube there is something wrong somewhere. I would not retap an expensive case that a genuine spec 7030 tube fits just to fit a 7000 aftmkt tube because there is too much chance of ruining the case threads. Note on MBK cases...the three I have are not machined exactly like genuine where the gasket fits between the case tube and case. I had to use some other gasket but do not remember what it was. So in other words the MBW uses "gen spec" 703-type-crown-tube and therefore a 700-"gen spec"-type-crown tube should fit without having to be retapped... That sounds great! 12 hours ago, jackflash said: Here's mine. I used a 1680 case. Yuki dial, hands, insert and a 700 crown and tube from Athaya. I needed to countersink and retap the case to fit. That however doesn't sound that amazing... Hmm.. Let see if Mr jackflash maybe can help me here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 "So in other words the MBW uses "gen spec" 703-type-crown-tube and therefore a 700-"gen spec"-type-crown tube should fit without having to be retapped..." I remember reading a few times where a case needed retapping for the Athaya case tube but do not remember details. I have two MBK cases with ST or TC case (can not remember now) tubes in them and first I tried genuine case tubes to make sure the threads were Ok and finally used ST/TC tubes because they are basically the same and a lot less $$. The third MBK case still has the tube that came in it. I have four 'brands' of aftmkt submariner cases...DW, MBK, Yuki, and IG44. All four have the correct oem type threads in the case but the DW and MBK cases do not accept oem gaskets between the case and case tube. I did not try gaskets on the Yuki and IG44 cases, I only tested the threads. Comments on the four 'brands' of cases I have (imho): DW 5513/1680 (both are exact same case, 1680 spec)...a lot has been written about them (some of it not so good by others and myself) but after a couple years I have decided they are not so bad after all for 1680 projects because of their cost. MBK...fine for Eta projects or 1680 projects using genuine 1570/75 after the case has been modified to accept a 26.5mm dial. Yuki 5512,5513...no complaints at all and fine for Eta or genuine movement projects. IG44 1680...very good fit and finish, a notch above Yuki etc. Have a 'canoe' shape when viewed from the side similar to some earlier genuine cases I have seen pictures of. The canoe shape disappears when worn. MBK are the only cases of the four with a gasket groove in the top of the case although none of mine had gaskets installed. Maybe someone else who used a genuine or genspec case tube in an MBK case will chime in because I figure they all probably have oem spec case threads. Word for word from an original rolex repair bulletin: (any typos are mine) The tubes Nos. 5330 and 7030 with the crowns Nos. 530, 603, and 703 compose the new OYSTER TUBES AND CROWNS assortment. The tube No. 5330 bears a crown No. 530 or 603 according to the reference of the case. The tube No. 7030 bears a crown No. 703. The tubes No. 5330 and 7030, as also the tube No. 6010, have the splines cut in the crown side part of the tube. The splines must not be reamed out any longer and can serve for unscrewing. Etc, etc. Finally and most important to this discussion: The tubes with old type splines Nos. 5300 and 5310 can be replaced by the tube No. 5330, the tube No. 6000 by the tube No. 6010 and the tubes No. 7000, respectively No. 7020, by the tube No. 7030, for as much as the crown No. 700, respectively No. 702, be also replaced by the crown No. 703. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbane883 Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 What does the last sentence imply? A 700 crown (that uses 700-0 tube) can be replaced with a 703 crown???? i.e. a 703 crown can fit on both a 702-0 AND 700-0 tube???? Am I reading that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 "What does the last sentence imply?" I decipher it to say any of the 7mm tubes mentioned will fit the same case but the correct crown for each tube must be used. If I did not know this, I would have no clue what the dildos were talking about. It was written like their warranties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbane883 Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 Maybe it was originally written in French/German and translation got messed. It's not like they had a Google Translate app back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted February 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 A little update.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Cordell Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Wow ! Dial source ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted February 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 2 hours ago, Bart Cordell said: Wow ! Dial source ? I'm going for a worn, but not completely "destroyed" look (the hands look like crap, but they need polishing, I added some tinted varnish on top of the lume, looks like World War VII currently) It's from dung_chrono on eBay. This baby is heading my way too: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted February 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Just testing it out a bit... Gave the case a polish before drilling lugs, and then redoing the bevels and final polish. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflash Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Excellent work. Coming along nicely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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