1680 build happening need help!!

[irolexu]

Aright guys and gals. I have been in the watch hobby for many years and I have finally decided to start a build on a dream project I have never ventured on. A red 1680

I just got a dial from Ebay and want opinions. It looked nice for the price and I'll need parts and if anyone out there has anything out of the list provided please PM me! I'm very excited to start this build as I have been in love with this particular watch since I knew what a Rolex was. I'm a little surprised at myself it took this long to start this build but here is my ideal package..

phong case 2mil 

gen 127 top hat

gen 700 crown and tube

aged insert pearl or no pearl don't really care

gen 1570 silver date disc if possible 

matched hands for the dial

gen 93150 

 

[Nanuq]

That's a pretty dial.... where did you find it on eBay?

[irolexu]

 

That's a pretty dial.... where did you find it on eBay?

Just randomly searching parts and came across this dial for cheap. I paid 150.00

Look up user gan_antique

[QueTip]

Imho if you load off this amount of money on the other parts such as case and with a lot of more gen stuff, it's a no brainer using that dial. Get a good one. 

Also maybe check with the correct serial and get the correct Mark dial too for the according serial number of the case.  

Minh Quy, Ivan whatever floats your boat but find a good one.  

 

Can't wait to see it done. 

Edited September 26, 2016 by QueTip

[irolexu]

What's wrong with this dial 

[Sogeha]

1 hour ago, irolexu said:

What's wrong with this dial 

Really mate, best not to ask, just send it me and I'll take care of it. Wrap it safely in a phong case and we will say no more about it.

[irolexu]

Hahah I thought it looked good!!


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[Montecarlo801]

Looks great, especially for $150

[QueTip]

2 hours ago, irolexu said:

What's wrong with this dial 

The coronet alone is an instant tell. 

[irolexu]

Who makes a good dial?


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[QueTip]

7 minutes ago, irolexu said:

Who makes a good dial?

Minh Quy, Ivan to name two. 

 

Ivan's dial is perfect and thus really pricy, so the MQ would be just fine too. 

 

[irolexu]

What can I expect to pay for a Ivan dial?


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[QueTip]

33 minutes ago, irolexu said:

What can I expect to pay for a Ivan dial?

IF he does it expect to pay a few grand. 

Edited September 26, 2016 by QueTip

[irolexu]

Wow! A few grand?? That'll put the build costs shy of a gen if I use mostly gen parts

[QueTip]

10 minutes ago, irolexu said:

Wow! A few grand?? That'll put the build costs shy of a gen if I use mostly gen parts

Yeah, also there's only a slight chance he will make the dial. He's in a position where he can decide whether he feels like making a dial that was requested or not. Lol

 

I'd suggest going with the MQ dial, what's your serial number on the Phong case exactly? 

[irolexu]

Don't have a phong yet. I basically grabbed that dial for cheap but I'm open to buying another dial.


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[QueTip]

15 minutes ago, irolexu said:

Don't have a phong yet. I basically grabbed that dial for cheap but I'm open to buying another dial.

Yeah, sounds good. Keep the correct Mark dials and serials in mind for perfection! Hehe  

[irolexu]

That is great advice thank you!


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[QueTip]

Always welcome mate!  

[alligoat]

here's what I believe is referred to a MKIV these days- similar to your dial. This dial came from VRF- 2.38 mil SN.

I don't think yours is that bad a dial- I do see serifs on the SCOC printing which you don't see on the gen.

I also think it's not cost effective to build a $5-6K rep and I've quit putting Rolex movements in my watches- it's getting harder and harder to find parts for these old 1575 movements.

I think it's better to just save up $10K and buy a real red sub.

[QueTip]

22 minutes ago, alligoat said:

here's what I believe is referred to a MKIV these days- similar to your dial. This dial came from VRF- 2.38 mil SN.

I don't think yours is that bad a dial- I do see serifs on the SCOC printing which you don't see on the gen.

Nope, it's a Mk5. The horizontal lines on the 'ft' are aligned whereas they are not aligned on the Mk4. 

 

It's not a bad dial, just has that great flaw I personally can't overlook. The coronet placing is too far off the 12 marker. It's meant to be closer as you can see on your pic and other Mark dials. None have the big space design like @irolexu s dial has. 

[irolexu]

3 hours ago, QueTip said:

Minh Quy, Ivan to name two. 

 

Ivan's dial is perfect and thus really pricy, so the MQ would be just fine too. 

 

Can you tell me where to find Minh Quy

[QueTip]

Just now, irolexu said:

Can you tell me where to find Minh Quy

http://vintagewatchesmq.com

[irolexu]

Thanks! I enquired about their 1680 red dial with matching hands...

[irolexu]

In the mean time if anyone has parts to sell PM me