rolojack Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 Here is a build based on the late JF series. What needed to be done was mostly recessing the crown seat and cutting the bezel smaller by reducing the outer diameter. Other than than, usual reshape of the top of the lugs, redrill of the lug holes and reprofile of the CGs. Everything was aged roughly, then carefullt restaured. Bracelet was sand blasted and repolished as well. It's VERY smooth now, and without any grease of some sort... Crystal is swiss, dial is from Vietnam, crown is from Athaya, flat 4 insert is a cartel old stock aged and thinned like the gens to snap in the bezel without any glue leaving a clean step up around. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beone21 Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 Holy sh!t nice watch. Great jobVerstuurd vanaf mijn ONEPLUS A3003 met Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pombok Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 Another amazing build@rolojackSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan71 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 @rolojack fantastic work!the midcase I think is from a 1665 cartel, so the thickeness is tiny like the early gen 1665 (69' 71'?) right ?There is the possibility to found a rep midcase case with the thicker case like the last gen 1665 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolojack Posted May 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Dan71 said: @rolojack fantastic work! the midcase I think is from a 1665 cartel, so the thickeness is tiny like the early gen 1665 (69' 71'?) right ? There is the possibility to found a rep midcase case with the thicker case like the last gen 1665 ? I've never seen one thicker than that.... I even believe the old cartels are thinner since they used it to do other subs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan71 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 So with your experience do you think that cartel 1665 have the same thickness than cartel 1680/5512 or is more thick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolojack Posted May 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 26 minutes ago, Dan71 said: So with your experience do you think that cartel 1665 have the same thickness than cartel 1680/5512 or is more thick? Definitely thicker ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan71 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Right ? Because my cartel 1680 bought the last year have engraved 1665 so I thinked that all 1665 have the same thinkness than 1680/5512But how much is thicker in mm your middle case and where you bought it ? Usual TD ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolojack Posted May 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 To be honest I never checked exactly.... When I shave the cases, I just remove as much as possible until I reached a visually pleasing result. It's all about perception. In general: cartel cases are super fat vs gens. Which is good because it allows us to carve almost anything out of those pigs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan71 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Ok tks for explanation..Maybe phong have a real thick case like later gen period or is still the same thickness like cartel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sogeha Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Phong will make a case to any specification, at a price. Drop him a line and ask for a quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan71 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Phong will make a case to any specification, at a price. Drop him a line and ask for a quote.I figure it ,1500euro for a middlecase maybe :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imajedi Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Stunning watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Dan71: "Because my cartel 1680 bought the last year have engraved 1665 so I think that all 1665 have the same thickness than 1680/5512. But how much is thicker in mm your middle case and where you bought it ? Usual TD?" rolojack: "I even believe the old cartels are thinner since they used it to do other subs...." "In general: cartel cases are super fat vs gens. Which is good because it allows us to carve almost anything out of those pigs." I measured a 15 year old cartel SD case engraved 1665 with He valve and the mid case is 5.7mm thick at the center on the 3 and 9 o'clock side. The lugs are also 5.7mm thick tapering down to 5.0mm just before they start turning down to where the spring bar hole is. The 1680 submariner cases from the same period (same seller) are also 5.7mm thick, only difference is the He valve. They all have the case back gasket groove in the case like the SD...same case as SD. They all have regular low profile bezels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan71 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 @automatico my cartel 1680 bought last year have the same size of your ..only at h 9 is 5mm maybe rolexaddict had worked on it but is only my speculation . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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