Revere Posted December 28, 2017 Report Posted December 28, 2017 The 6263 in question: https://puretime05.com/daytona-6263-ss-white-black-dial-black-tachymeter-bezel-on-ss-bracelet-venus-75.html# The goal would be to replace the dial and hands, for starters. Does this watch take gen-spec diameter dials & does it have the same hand dimensions as gen? Some quick searches did not turn up this info but I apologize if I have missed it somewhere. Thank you in advance.
SUK Posted December 28, 2017 Report Posted December 28, 2017 If I am not wrong, it “accepts” a gen-dial but you must do firstly the modify with the dial @6. Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk
Revere Posted December 28, 2017 Author Report Posted December 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, SUK said: If I am not wrong, it “accepts” a gen-dial but you must do firstly the modify with the dial @6. Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk What do you mean? Do you have to modify the dial due to the subdial position?
SUK Posted December 28, 2017 Report Posted December 28, 2017 Yes, the subdial position in a Venus 75 movement is lower than a gen. It’s not a really difficult modification. Almost any modder with experience can do that.Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk
Revere Posted December 28, 2017 Author Report Posted December 28, 2017 Ooh, truthfully that is a bit of a bummer because I am looking to make a slightly higher end type of watch and I am a little anal about things like subdial position. I think I will save my pennies for a higher end build with a V72 or maybe build a nice 5 digit Daytona. It's a shame a proper 5 digit Daytona rep does not exist. Thank you for the information.
SUK Posted December 28, 2017 Report Posted December 28, 2017 Check the fotos (sorry for the quality )Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk
alligoat Posted December 28, 2017 Report Posted December 28, 2017 A while back Chiman did something with a Venus 75 movement and dial. As I recall, if you get a better dial, you'll have to modify the movement- move the 6 o'clock post which is fixed anyway up or down slightly. Someone did put better subdial hands on the Venus 75, but I don't know where they came from- might have been over at RWI that I read that post. Of course, building a 6263 with a V72 isn't cheap or easy either. Don't know about the Yuki cases, maybe they're cheaper than a Phong. The dials are around $186-200 and other parts are available. V72s run at least $1K these days and $200-300 for a service. Maybe you could build a V-72 for $2K or 2500.
SUK Posted December 28, 2017 Report Posted December 28, 2017 Yuki is far cheaper than phong or MQ. Just a phong case costs over 1000$, dials 750$,hands 200$... yuki is a good alternative. V72 is over 1500, plus modification to 727 , plus service.. about 2500$. There was an excellent post from TheSociety in the RWI-forum about modifying a 6263. He is really a master. He talked about 8000$ to get a good 6263 based on phong and V72. Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk
SuperDanX Posted December 28, 2017 Report Posted December 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Revere said: The 6263 in question: https://puretime05.com/daytona-6263-ss-white-black-dial-black-tachymeter-bezel-on-ss-bracelet-venus-75.html# The goal would be to replace the dial and hands, for starters. Does this watch take gen-spec diameter dials & does it have the same hand dimensions as gen? Some quick searches did not turn up this info but I apologize if I have missed it somewhere. Thank you in advance. this will walk you through fitting a gen spec dial. A lot is achievable if you have the skills. Take a look at rolojacks and slays posts to see what’s possible with a cartel base. 1
Revere Posted December 28, 2017 Author Report Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SuperDanX said: this will walk you through fitting a gen spec dial. A lot is achievable if you have the skills. Take a look at rolojacks and slays posts to see what’s possible with a cartel base. Ooh, that's a pretty great post, thank you for sharing that. That doesn't seem that bad at all truthfully, it completely changes my opinion of the build. I suppose a vietnam dial is probably the best/most bang-for-buck vintage Daytona dial you can get nowadays; is that correct? Edited December 28, 2017 by Revere
SuperDanX Posted December 28, 2017 Report Posted December 28, 2017 15 minutes ago, Revere said: Ooh, that's a pretty great post, thank you for sharing that. That doesn't seem that bad at all truthfully, it completely changes my opinion of the build. I suppose a vietnam dial is probably the best/most bang-for-buck vintage Daytona dial you can get nowadays; is that correct? Yes but some are better than others.
sputim Posted December 29, 2017 Report Posted December 29, 2017 Both based on cartel case and venus mvmt. Best you can get without going the v72 road but still not dirt cheap. Good vn dials with gen crown cost 300+ and to machine a vn bezel to fit the cartel case is another story I currently have 2 v72 and 2 more in the making but also wear the venus very often Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1
SuperDanX Posted December 29, 2017 Report Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) Really nice. For our benfit what part of the vn bezel needs to be machined? I read this a lot but it’s never very specific. Also which dealer did you get those dial from if you don’t mind sharing? 19 minutes ago, sputim said: Both based on cartel case and venus mvmt. Best you can get without going the v72 road but still not dirt cheap. Good vn dials with gen crown cost 300+ and to machine a vn bezel to fit the cartel case is another story I currently have 2 v72 and 2 more in the making but also wear the venus very often Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited December 29, 2017 by SuperDanX
SUK Posted December 29, 2017 Report Posted December 29, 2017 Both based on cartel case and venus mvmt. Best you can get without going the v72 road but still not dirt cheap. Good vn dials with gen crown cost 300+ and to machine a vn bezel to fit the cartel case is another story I currently have 2 v72 and 2 more in the making but also wear the venus very often Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkNice!Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk
Lolex_panelai Posted December 29, 2017 Report Posted December 29, 2017 Nice!Are these the cartel sub-dial hands?
chiman12 Posted December 29, 2017 Report Posted December 29, 2017 Its really too bad that the days of the cheap DW case and dial set has gone the way of the dodo. You're best bet is to find one of those old cases and fit an A7750 with slim caseback (no rotor)
sputim Posted December 30, 2017 Report Posted December 30, 2017 Thx guys! This dial is mq but he‘s quite expensive..will show a comparison to gen bezel once I have time. Needs a lot of modding and hell of a pita unfortunately.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
newswire Posted December 30, 2017 Report Posted December 30, 2017 Pricing for a “vietnam” case and dial is all over the place. (Almost 3x difference in some case) Don’t get ripped off. Do research and shop around. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
d4v3 Posted December 31, 2017 Report Posted December 31, 2017 10 hours ago, newswire said: Pricing for a “vietnam” case and dial is all over the place. (Almost 3x difference in some case) Don’t get ripped off. Do research and shop around. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Agreed prices and dealers can be found searching at the forum, no mystery part dealers with "extra good quality" for $200 more, here is the way to go: 1.-Study your prefered model (reference, size, color, material) 2.-Search within the forums for those parts 3.-buy all once you know as much as possible about parts this will save tremendous amount of time and money, this magnificent forum have several threads with build details from several members around, check those too! P.S. sometimes its better to hunt for a watch already built if you dont have all the tools/skills/practice needed to build a high end rep.
calvin951121 Posted December 31, 2017 Report Posted December 31, 2017 Really nice. For our benfit what part of the vn bezel needs to be machined? I read this a lot but it’s never very specific. Also which dealer did you get those dial from if you don’t mind sharing? For your reference. But I haven’t success Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
d4v3 Posted December 31, 2017 Report Posted December 31, 2017 3 hours ago, calvin951121 said: For your reference. But I haven’t success Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Thats a really useful blueprint tyvm, do you have more of this? 1
calvin951121 Posted December 31, 2017 Report Posted December 31, 2017 Thats a really useful blueprint tyvm, do you have more of this?No sorry. This blueprint is suitable for CNC. But I don’t have any Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
2671 Posted January 4, 2018 Report Posted January 4, 2018 On 2017/12/29 at 2:26 AM, Revere said: The 6263 in question: https://puretime05.com/daytona-6263-ss-white-black-dial-black-tachymeter-bezel-on-ss-bracelet-venus-75.html# The goal would be to replace the dial and hands, for starters. Does this watch take gen-spec diameter dials & does it have the same hand dimensions as gen? Some quick searches did not turn up this info but I apologize if I have missed it somewhere. Thank you in advance. The problem with recent batch of this cartel 6263, they all have upside down 571 stamps on endlink pieces. Unless Angus has some old stock that you may wanna have him check. On 2017/12/29 at 2:26 AM, Revere said:
SuperDanX Posted January 4, 2018 Report Posted January 4, 2018 On 31/12/2017 at 8:59 AM, calvin951121 said: For your reference. But I haven’t success Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Wish I could understand this, I have no idea how to read a blueprint.
HaydenM Posted January 4, 2018 Report Posted January 4, 2018 Is the hour subdial really inactive as mentioned in the modding link on the 6263? 1
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