wan Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 He just told me that paypal cut him off yesterday............any opinions on Moneybrokers?...........wan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotoman Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 yeah, this really screws me up if you want to buy a 30 dollar part it now costs 55 to send him the name money for the part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dario33 Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 I'm beginning to see a pattern here...ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 OH NOOOOOOOOOO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolfire Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 Now... Who can this asshat with an axe to grind be... And I was just contemplating to purchase the 111H from Davidsen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star69 Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 this is so i hate that this happens - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavor flav Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 no......no.......no......no.......no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bastards! why doesn't paypal realize they make a ton of dough off us and look the other way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Now... Who can this asshat with an axe to grind be... And I was just contemplating to purchase the 111H from Davidsen... Hummm.... which member among the various boards would have a reason to be [censored] recently? Any firings or disciplinary action been taken of late to cause a disgruntled individual who thinks they've been done wrong? /Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy777 Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Hummm.... which member among the various boards would have a reason to be [censored] recently? Any firings or disciplinary action been taken of late to cause a disgruntled individual who thinks they've been done wrong? /Tim ...very good point! I don't mean to point a finger, buuuut, there's a big ugly seal I've seen around here that looks guilty as hell to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TTK Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 I think you should retract that remark.......some could interpret it to mean that you're referring to Pugwash....and not the seal......that is of course if you were simply referring to the seal.....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornerstone Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Aye, I'm thinking that was just a wee joke about the seal wanting his bucket back.....right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdavis Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Dealers are falling like dominoes from the PayPal shake out. All it took is one irresponsible impulsive action by an impatient disgruntled buyer to spark the interest of the PayPal police and ruin the ability to use this easy method of payment for us all. BTW, I do not understand by what authority PayPal has to freeze accounts simply because they do not like the business of the account holder is in. They are not a law enforcement agency so how can this happen without a court order. I'm just not sure that they are on good legal ground. Regardless, they can make it hard on the account holder until he is able to sort it out to get relief through legal channels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 (edited) Dealers are falling like dominoes from the PXyPal shake out. All it took is one irresponsible impulsive action by an impatient disgruntled buyer to spark the interest of the PXyPal police and ruin the ability to use this easy method of payment for us all. BTW, I do not understand by what authority PXyPal has to freeze accounts simply because they do not like the business of the account holder is in. They are not a law enforcement agency so how can this happen without a court order. I'm just not sure that they are on good legal ground. Regardless, they can make it hard on the account holder until he is able to sort it out to get relief through legal channels. Probably on the basis that it is an illegal enterprise. It may or may not be illegal to buy these products, but everywhere on earth it sure as hell is illegal to sell them. I hesitate to add this because I kind of like the protection and convenience that using P*ypal offers, but P*ypal has an option to send a "Cash Advance" (used to be term Quasi-cash as well) that I think circumvents this entire issue. The problem is that we are paying for "Goods" and hence the type of goods becomes relevant. With "Goods" P*ypal still furnishes buyer protection in the amount of $200 for non-delivery. Cash Advance circumvents this entire chain of events and the transaction becomes the equivalent of a cash transfer. Someone would have to go through the P*ypal user agreement in detail to figure this out for sure one way or another. But I've seen this used as a method to also shield the seller from chargebacks on eb*y. I don't think P*ypal advertises this too heavily because there are grey areas with the whole thing. In particular, CC companies may treat it as a cash advance on your account rather than a regular purchase. The sellers might also consider not accepting credit card payments -- only payment from checking account transfers or P*ypal account balances. This would be cheaper for our sellers as well since they can sign up for a no-fee account and not pay the P*ypal Credit Card transaction fee. /Tim Edited February 27, 2007 by Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgodeep Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 All, I have a suggestion to Davidsen and anyone interested that may help avoid issues via stealth..........use E-bay as the front for purchases 1- Item detail and pricing discussed and agreed via e-mail as normal- Total amount payable agreed. 2- Dealer (or someone for them) list an "imaginary" items on Ebay such as a collectable comic , toy, ornament , whatever really - on Buy It Now - only for the agreed amount. Dealer supplies link to customer via e-mail. 3- Purchase made on E-Bay , Payment sent by PayPal ......non issue product so no investigation by PayPal. Clearly would only work if customers have e-bay accounts, but if you have PayPal most likely to get an Ebay account. Any thoughts ? fishgodeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolfire Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 I think you should retract that remark.......some could interpret it to mean that you're referring to Pugwash....and not the seal......that is of course if you were simply referring to the seal.....! Yeah... Amen to that... Puggy would never do such a thing... Also, that guilty asshat would not leave trails behind his unholy deed!... :yucky: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolfire Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 All, I have a suggestion to Davidsen and anyone interested that may help avoid issues via stealth..........use E-bay as the front for purchases 1- Item detail and pricing discussed and agreed via e-mail as normal- Total amount payable agreed. 2- Dealer (or someone for them) list an "imaginary" items on Ebay such as a collectable comic , toy, ornament , whatever really - on Buy It Now - only for the agreed amount. Dealer supplies link to customer via e-mail. 3- Purchase made on E-Bay , Payment sent by PayPal ......non issue product so no investigation by PayPal. Clearly would only work if customers have e-bay accounts, but if you have PayPal most likely to get an Ebay account. Any thoughts ? fishgodeep A loooooong time ago, when things were much more simple and straightforward, the above was an unwritten code of conduct (except the ebay :yucky: portion)amongst RWG members... But alas, some people were plainly DEAF.... :thumbdown: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkerouac Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 It is generally agreed that there are moles on the forum. It would be almost impossible, considering the size of the community and the number of people who come and go all the time, to single out any one or more individuals -- unless of course the dealers compare notes and identify individuals or mailing addresses that seem to be involved when trouble hits. Also. someone asked by what rights Paypal can kick someone out based on the type of business they are in. Answer: it's called Terms of Service. Perhaps they can slow down and make it a bit more expensive to buy and sell reps. But I'm sure that we'll adapt and continue on our harmless ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 All, I have a suggestion to Davidsen and anyone interested that may help avoid issues via stealth..........use E-bay as the front for purchases 1- Item detail and pricing discussed and agreed via e-mail as normal- Total amount payable agreed. 2- Dealer (or someone for them) list an "imaginary" items on Ebay such as a collectable comic , toy, ornament , whatever really - on Buy It Now - only for the agreed amount. Dealer supplies link to customer via e-mail. 3- Purchase made on E-Bay , Payment sent by PayPal ......non issue product so no investigation by PayPal. Clearly would only work if customers have e-bay accounts, but if you have PayPal most likely to get an Ebay account. Any thoughts ? fishgodeep It would have to be something that no one could conceivably ever want to buy like the book "George W. Bush on God and on Country : The President Speaks Out About Faith, Principle, and Patriotism", George W. Bush author, which could be our code for a watch missing some screws and running 100 years slow. >>>>running for cover<<<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy777 Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Aye, I'm thinking that was just a wee joke about the seal wanting his bucket back.....right? Look, all I'm saying is that to me, the seal is the only one with a clear motive here -- and he looks guilty as hell to boot. Give the seal back his bucket, please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAM192MEX Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 I just found out about this , just entered the amount for the 177h in paypal....... and bum my heart was broken in 1000 pieces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotoman Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 It would have to be something that no one could conceivably ever want to buy like the book "George W. Bush on God and on Country : The President Speaks Out About Faith, Principle, and Patriotism", George W. Bush author, which could be our code for a watch missing some screws and running 100 years slow. >>>>running for cover<<<< that was F-in hilarious [censored] Cheney could be code for the PVD destro model Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new & improved osteopath Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 It would have to be the destro- he would not wear a watch on the LEFT hand. -O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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